Jeremy Corbyn confronted the Tories with the poverty they're creating at PMQs - and all they could do was laugh

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The Tories seem to forget that they were the last government - at some point they will have to take responsibility for their handling of the nation

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As Jeremy Corbyn stood for his second PMQs today, the mocking Tory laughs told us everything we need to know about their enduring Bullingdon Club-style politics. Old habits die hard, it seems. But Corbyn opened strongly, with an issue that unites the Labour party: the cuts to working tax credits which penalise the lowest earners, known colloquially as the Tory work penalty.

Again, the Tories laughed at the name ‘Kelly’, so apparently unbelievable do they find the first names of Corbyn’s constituents; they soon fell silent, however, as they heard of her struggle as the mother of a disabled child earning minimum wage in a 40.5-hour-per-week job. Corbyn tackled the bullyboys by pausing at their laughter this time. ‘Some may find this funny,’ he said, as he continued to talk about mass inequality and the housing problem in London. It was a subtle highlight of something glaringly obvious: for millionaires protected by Tory policies, inequality bolstered by unfair taxes and buy-to-let properties really is hilarious.

Cameron’s reply to the work penalty issue was the same old line: apparently a £20-a-week increase in wages will magically solve the problem. This is not true, of course, as Corbyn promptly replied: working families are set to be £1,300 a year worse off as the Conservative government hammers the working and middle classes so as to give to the super rich.

Cameron claimed that Corbyn’s figures on poverty were wrong, but perhaps that is something to do with the fact that the Work and Pensions Secretary fixed the definition of ‘poverty’ recently. You don’t feed and clothe homeless children by changing a definition, and the government should be ashamed. The fact that 50 per cent of wealth is in 1 per cent of hands globally is shambolic, and reports today that inequality is growing in the UK even as our country now has the third most ‘ultra-high net worth individuals’ in the world put paid to Cameron’s claims to have driven opportunity. There could be no bigger proof that his policies continue to squeeze the middle and punish the poor.

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www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-the-tories-with-the-poverty-theyre-creating-at-pmqs-and-all-they-could-do-a6693756.html

'Thinking about that, (a cunning trap) are there any North Koreans on here?'

Surely a man of your sophistication, education and knowledge would have smoked them out by now?

'raging at the depravity and injustice of the west'

What has the Piers Gaveston got to do with this?

The ghost of Margaret Thatcher obviously lives on

Owllady, Thatcher was clever, Isitmebut is more like Alf Garnett, on about "that bloody Labour lot of commies" with all of Alf's certainty about his uneducated opinions as per

"This why you fools can NEVER create a sustainable economy, as you STILL have not worked out what drives it, and even worse, what you KEEP doing wrong."

When Isitmebut, who never managed to get an 'ology in Alf Garnett studies, refers to "fools", he alludes to Ed Balls, PPE, Yvette Cooper, PPE, Mandelson, PPE, Blair, PPE and Ed Miliband, PPE among all the rest of the Labour leadership and advisory team.

....... SIX posts now claigy and still can't criticise Putin, its getting as 'embarrassing' as an austerity u-turn.

"Trolls worked in rooms of about 20 people, each controlled by three editors, who would check posts and impose fines if they found the words had been cut and pasted, or were ideologically deviant."

A 'man' eh, you are really going for the jugular there Ivan; re your "would have smoked them out by now" - I've only just worked out about five out of your room of 20, and they'd be some surprises there - and who knows how many Mumsnet handles each you commy shams have?

.......Eight posts now claig, and counting.

I will say it again;
Cameron is a psychotic lump, and posing hairy chest pussy

Now YOU and squizin wherever currently hiding, can say;
Putin is a psychotic dwarf, and posing shaven chest pussy.

Eight posts rather than say that one line, please explain?

'please explain?'

I am not a childish idiot like you and not a fan of Piers Gaveston style puerile peer group frolics and games.

''please explain?''

I don't think you would understand what being an adult is all about, IsitAlfGarnett. I've come to the verdict that you are more than two sandwiches short of a Piers Gaveston picnic.

"When Isitmebut, who never managed to get an 'ology in Alf Garnett studies,"

Ooooh I see you have been allowed to import a bit of popular culture to insult my education; it must SERIOUSLY piss off your whole Troll Room/supervisors that someone so dim, can run all your 65,000 rouble highly educated arses, so ragged? lol

"The most prestigious job in the agency is to be an English-language troll, for which the pay is 65,000 roubles. Last year, the Guardian’s readers’ editor said he believed there was an “orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign” on the newspaper’s comment boards."

Hmmmm several 'Alf Garnett' references now, he was a working class character, my father was a blue collar worker, why would your 'computer sez' I might be offended by that?

'my father was a blue collar worker'

And you're unemployable, but what has that got to do with it?

Alf Garnett was an ignorant bigot but he was a lot smarter than you.

P.S. A word to your handlers, the several reference A DAY re "Piers Gaveston" (whether Cameron had been in that club, which he hadn't, or not) - it has as much discrediting ooomph (that you are clearly looking for) as 'modernizers' - in other words, very little, as no one really knows what the feck you are talking about.

but he was a lot smarter than you.

Correct, but would he have had as much fun exposing Ruskies that were so ingrained in the Labour movement in the 1960's and 1970's, as I am currently having right now?

MP's are current getting all knicker bunched that THEY might be spied on by the state like every other citizen, yet are protected by the Harold Wilson 'protections' he gave gave back then - in other words none - and who could possibly give current MP's protection based on their terrorist "friends".

I wouldn't be surprised if Corbyn doesn't get patted down at the President Xi banquet, looking for guns or an explosive vest.

Anyhoo claig .... I got 'stuff' to do, so while in a free country you can feel free to express opinions on here, based on the M.O. below, we all now KNOW whose opinion/agenda it is ... ra ra ras-Putin, lover of the Syrian king
www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

I've been here years, (under various names), and while I've frequently butted heads with Claig, and she's driven me mad sometimes, she has never been less than courteous, so good for her for not wanting to repeat the sort of insults that would embarrass a 17-year-old drunken frat boy. I mean even if she does what you ask, you'll claim she's been given permission by her 'handlers'.

The idea that Claig is Boris the Russian internet troll, and the Kremlin has been paying her for years as a sleeper agent on a parenting site, is just deluded. You'll be going on about the illuminati, Cultural Marxists and the Frankfurt school next.

Just watched an interesting interview with Egon von Meyerz of Matterhorn Asset Management. He says current economic policy only helps the richest, leaving the rest of us to survive with ever larger debt mountains. When looking at official charts GDP flatlining and credit growing you can see his point.

What the fudge is he/she talking about?

I don't know about North Koreans but in classics there's a thread about an old Korean lady in someone's garden, if that's any help.
Thought I may as well add that seeing that this thread has already descended into utter madness and spurious accusations.

It's not often you witness someone's real-time mental breakdown over the internet...

Isitmebut HERE people are there who can help you.

Why does Isitmebut think that claig is in the pay of the Kremlin? Have I missed a crucial exchange of posts somewhere?

I think claig being in the pay of the Kremlin is about as likely as Isitmebut being in the pay of Conservative Central Office.

Very likely, then?

'Why does Isitmebut think that claig is in the pay of the Kremlin?'

Because I think that the toppling of an elected Ukrainian President in the Maidan uprising was an EU backed coup using Right Sector Neo-Nazi elements because President Yanukovych had decided to turn down an EU deal for a more favourable Russian deal instead, and because I think that Assad is better than the butchering Jihadists and funded Islamists who are being backed by Saudi and Qatari money in a five year war to overthrow the Syrian government.

'Why does Isitmebut think that claig is in the pay of the Kremlin?'

Because I think that the toppling of an elected Ukrainian President in the Maidan uprising was an EU backed coup using Right Sector Neo-Nazi elements because President Yanukovych had decided to turn down an EU deal for a more favourable Russian deal instead, and because I think that Assad is better than the butchering Jihadists and funded Islamists who are being backed by Saudi and Qatari money in a five year war to overthrow the Syrian government.