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Madeleine McCann investigation

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lyndie · 06/05/2014 18:49

I saw today that possible excavations are to start in the resort where MM went missing.

Does anyone think the progress The Met have made is astonishing given the length of time that has elapsed? I can't help but wonder what progress could have been made if they had been involved at the start.

I really hope that somehow they can find out what happened and give her family some sort of closure. I know the ins and outs of what happened and her parents leaving her have been discussed at length on MN but from a crime point of view I would be very interested to see if the Portugese police had done enough or not.

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LaVolcan · 09/05/2014 12:27

That is one of the problems I have with the McCanns: they discredit the dogs findings, instead of saying words to the effect, 'please God, no, we will believe that she hasn't come to harm until it's proved that she has'.

Or perhaps that is their way of expressing that sentiment?

Deux · 09/05/2014 12:34

The dog search is on You Tube.

So who died in that apartment and whose dead body was in the car?

It's quite chilling.

noddyholder · 09/05/2014 12:39

The portuguese and UK police also had phone evidence which was also not allowed because it was seen as invasive I think because the phones were intercepted without permission?? I am prepared for costa to maybe correct me on that as I know it was in the Portugal press a lot but never here.

MamaMary · 09/05/2014 12:51

Interesting - I never heard that phone evidence wasn't allowed. Is there a lot online about this?

I remember (back at the time of the last threads when I read loads on this) reading about some call logs and that Kate had made a lot of calls to a friend on the night before. Not related to anything at all, yet there were theories around it... there are a lot of wacky theories out there.

The more you read, the more confused you get. There are so many inconsistencies in the whole thing.

There was a guy who gave up his job to dedicate his life to studying this case, and he concluded that the body is buried in an ex-pats front garden? He was convinced of it! Yet it seemed nuts.

wannaBe · 09/05/2014 13:04

talking about the neglect angle of this case will have this thread deleted.... apparently it's only ok to judge this course of action if the children don't actually come to harm. But coming to harm removes that responsibility because of the loss suffered as a result.

Deux · 09/05/2014 13:11

On reading some of the PJ files, it would seem that some of the Tapas group had their children securely locked in the apartment and also had baby monitors of a spec high enough to be effective from the tapas bar.

Jane Tanner had one too. She went to the tapas bar to try it out and found it was out of range.

Had no idea.

Costacoffeeplease · 09/05/2014 13:13

I think phone evidence is only allowed if a court order has been obtained in advance ie you can only use it as evidence if the court has pre-approved the listening/tracking/reading of text messages etc which of course is only any good if you know a crime is going to be committed or you already have suspicions about that person. So the police can know about calls/messages etc but not be able to use them as evidence

There were also a number of calls deleted on the McCanns phones in the days leading up to 3 May

I don't know if I should post the PT theory but it is very easy to find online - or send me a message?

noddyholder · 09/05/2014 13:13

It is all very confusing thats for sure. Both parents said they felt they were being watched yet went out and left an unlocked apartment? The UK police are on their way back home now so was very quick

noddyholder · 09/05/2014 13:14

I subscribe 100% to the PT theory of what happened. It is the only one that fits the evidence they do have.

ClarksonsPerm · 09/05/2014 13:17

What's the PT theory?

Costacoffeeplease · 09/05/2014 13:19

Anyone who would like to know the theory at the point the investigation was shelved, send me a private message, or google it - it should be easy to find

MamaMary · 09/05/2014 13:22

Yes this thread could very easily be deleted.

MN are extremely twitchy about this subject, with very good reason. To their credit they allowed several threads to stand before. One was deleted after posters came on to derail it by posting the same message repeatedly.

Onesleeptillwembley · 09/05/2014 13:23

Pm's you, costa.

cathyandclaire · 09/05/2014 13:30

What does PT stand for?

Costacoffeeplease · 09/05/2014 13:41

Portugal!

LaVolcan · 09/05/2014 13:41

PT = Portugal

Costacoffeeplease · 09/05/2014 13:42

Haven't got it wembley?

Onesleeptillwembley · 09/05/2014 13:45

On my phone - will try again.

Onesleeptillwembley · 09/05/2014 13:49

Sent now.

cathyandclaire · 09/05/2014 13:49

ahhhhhh

MamaMary · 09/05/2014 13:50

Thanks - thought PT was some code for something else! Overthinking it.

Costacoffeeplease · 09/05/2014 13:54

Sorry - I'm just used to it as shorthand - nothing too exciting

Costacoffeeplease · 09/05/2014 14:13

I think I've answered all pm's for now - thanks everyone

CinnabarRed · 09/05/2014 14:17

I've just PM'd you.

Onesleeptillwembley · 09/05/2014 14:17

Thank you, costa.

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