Why I No Longer Feel Comfortable Wearing a Poppy

[Geckos48]

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very eloquently put. Exactly how I feel about the whole debacle.

November 11th should be for those who selflessly gave their lives in the World Wars, not those who chose to fight dubious campaigns abroad.

The IRA attacks are because of our occupation of Northern Ireland.

It is not considered a war only because the other side dont have the weapons.

Maybe nobody has invaded us because we have The Forces?
Thank you for sharing your story Twit, I'm sorry for your loss.

And another war defending my 'freedom of speech'?

I should say 'any terrorist activity not connected to our war on or occupation of a foreign nation' to be more specific.

London 1972 Black September
London 1980 Iranian Embassy Siege
London 1980 Abu Nidal
London 1982 Animal Rights Militia
1988 Lockerbie

I think you'll find that a lot of people in NI consider The Troubles to be a war. Been in many bombings have you op?

Maybe nobody has invaded us because after WW11 we had shown that we would stand up and fight, plus we are generally a multi-cultural society.

That gives us far more protection than our armed forces does.

I consider the troubles to be a war too.

Many people don't however.

I've been to war-torn countries. I know what war does. I know how we leave things. Its not pretty.

London 1999, David Copeland
2007 Pavlo Lapshyn (to incite a race war)

My Father fought on the Atlantic convoys in WWII. He wore his poppy with pride and would have been disgusted at the attitudes expressed by the OP. i hope the OP will refuse to accept any help or protection offered by our armed forces in the event of any attack

We have helped terrorists. More people have joined terrorist organisations since we invaded Afghanistan.

We are basically a walking advertisement for them.

We wont leave Afghanistan stable and I am sure America will continue to send in drones. Really puts us in a great light doesnt it?

Shes clutching at straws kim, quite clearly...

I think LtEve is responding to the OP's challenge to name a terrorist incident unconnected to the UK's wars overseas. Pretty comprehensively demolished, IMO.

I should say 'any terrorist activity not connected to our war on or occupation of a foreign nation' to be more specific

So I've given you 7 not including attacks by the IRA, PIRA, RIRA, CIRA, UVF, UFF and INLA.

Yes Skylerwhite, exactly (and quite clearly NOT clutching at straws)

7 examples in what, 65 years?

I don't see your point really.

Unfortunately we can't stop all nutters and actually, our home office is far more responsible for sorting them out than our activities abroad.

I would say a number of those terrorist are there because of the general attitude we as a nation have to have for different countries in order to justify us going in and freeing the crap out of them.

If the OP found something ticking at the bottom of her garden who would she call? Ghostbusters?

Geckos, you do realise that you put out a challenge and I answered that challenge dont you? Every time you say something that I refute you change track - it makes you sound weak.

You said "any" not a specific number, and not in a specific timeline.

So I'll pass it back to you. How many terrorist atrocities do you think there have been in UK since 2003 that are directly attributed to our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan?