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Missing women found in Ohio

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 07/05/2013 06:29

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When the story of Natasha Kampusch broke in 2006 it seemed like a bizarre one-off. Since then we've heard about Jaycee Dugard and one or two others. Now three more missing women (possibly more) have been found at a place in Ohio seemingly having been held captive for many years. Good conclusion to a tragic story and makes you wonder if there's anyone in the UK, written off as missing, but being similarly held against their will. Thinking about the case of Claudia Lawrence, for example.

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LibertineLover · 09/05/2013 10:57

Have they confirmed there were more babies that died?

He will definitely get life, they don't mess about over there, and I think they know they've fucked up a few times on this one, so will throw the book at him.

Won't turn the clock back for those poor women though :(

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 10:57

sorry

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22453361

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 11:00

i dont think so libertine. just that there were more pregnancies. they haven't said whether those pregnancies ended in miscarriage or went full term. although i think i saw somewhere that there was a baby that died aged a few days old from respiratory problems but i can find where i saw it so dont take it as fact. i'll try and find where they mentioned it.

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 11:02

there is more and more emerging that the police had been informed several times of women being seen at the house asking for help, "pounding" on the door, holding a baby, a girl in the attic window, the women seen naked in the back yard in chains! surely even 1 report was enough to keep knocking the door til he answered rather than just leave it because he didn't!

CheerfulYank · 09/05/2013 12:37

Here it talks more about the baby's birth.

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 12:51

i wonder why he wanted to keep that baby alive when he had made sure the other pregnancies didn't continue? i'm wondering if it was because it was a girl or maybe he knew it would be too difficult to get rid of the remains if she died.

CheerfulYank · 09/05/2013 12:58

I was wondering the same...maybe faced with it as a baby rather than a pregnancy he couldn't? Who knows what he was thinking, ever.

MarthasHarbour · 09/05/2013 14:15

it was probably a control thing IYKWIM

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 14:29

ggo point martha. with a baby it meant he could threaten to hurt it if they refused to do what he said or fought him or tried to ecape etc.

also noticed that it said the girl was wearing a nappy when she came out. i wonder if that was a delayed development thing because of captivity or what? maybe lack of access to a toilet as regularly as young dcs need it. adults can hold it if they are being denied access but dcs cant so maybe nappies were easier for her.

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 14:29

good not ggo

TheSmallPrint · 09/05/2013 14:33

I wondered why he has been charged with only 3 cases of rape when there is evidence of multiple miscarriages (according to BBC today anyway). And how are the brothers not being charged, surely they must have been aware of the situation??

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 14:48

it says the brothers were completely unconnected and unaware of the girls.

i also wondered about his 'common-law' wife that left in 2005 after he badly assaulted her. i'm guessing she lived with him in that house? i wonder if she had any suspicions? or maybe the lived at her house and he just 'visited' (shudder) his own house.

LibertineLover · 09/05/2013 15:50

did the brothers live there?

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 15:53

no. i dont really know why they were arrested. knee jerk reaction? wanting to cover all possibilities? didn't want to risk anyone involved getting away? not sure. maybe he was with teh brothers when arrested?

CheerfulYank · 09/05/2013 17:48

3 counts of rape means three women, not
three times.

TheSmallPrint · 09/05/2013 18:05

Ah I see, thanks CheefulYank. Is it different here?

phantomnamechanger · 09/05/2013 18:56

to be fair, I dont think we can take the stories some of the neighbours are coming out with as gospel.
remember all the cases where someone has been wrongly arrested, but in the meantime, all sorts of rumours and gossip about them have spread like wild fire - anything from strange noises, comings and goings,acting suspicioulsy, looking dodgy, IYKWIM! Reporters are out and about looking for comment - some people just love the cameras and will say anything at all to get their 5 minutes of fame (and the hopes of a paid interview?)

MarthasHarbour · 09/05/2013 20:04

yes booyhoo that is the way i was thinking (about the control) he was already asserting control by saying he would kill her (Michelle i think) if the baby died. Fucking monster

i did hear that the brothers arrest was a knee jerk reaction, in all the drama and panic of the escape etc.

this is STILL playing on my mind - the whole thing.

Booyhoo · 09/05/2013 20:06

Yes mine too martha. Ive had to switch the news channel off as it was really upsetting me. ( feel awful saying that when those women had to go through it)

niceguy2 · 09/05/2013 23:41

With regards to the brothers, it does sound like they knew nothing about it. Apparently the son said that there were rooms noone was allowed in and was always padlocked.

Plus all police need to do is ask the girls if they ever saw the brothers. If the answer is yes then they're screwed. Given they've been released, I can only guess they never saw each other.

BBC News is now reporting Ariel may be executed which personally i think is too good for him. I'd like to see him either locked away in a super max in solitary for the rest of his days like he has done to the girls or fed to general population for a bit and see how long he lasts.

MarthasHarbour · 10/05/2013 07:01

I like your thinking niceguy DH just said he would be in solitary confinement for years when on death row anyway. Which is a start!

CheerfulYank · 10/05/2013 09:21

Yes, he'll be eligible for Ohio's death penalty as forced miscarriage counts as aggravated murder.

Booyhoo · 10/05/2013 09:38

I agree niceguy. Solitary confinement not executionn.

CheerfulYank · 10/05/2013 10:36

It'll cause a big to-do...always does between the pro choice and life camps when murder victims are fetuses.

TheSmallPrint · 10/05/2013 16:19

I'd quite like him to go through 10 years of what he put those girls through tbh.

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