A fourteen year old girl has been killed...

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...mauled to death by four dogs.

RIP

So what breeds do you propose are banned? Everything apart from toy or miniature breeds? With exemptions for working farm, police and assistance dogs?

I was walking with DS2 in the buggy and Ds1 on the buggy board so this was about 10 years ago. A little yappy type dog came running out of a drive and clamped it's jaws round my ankle. I screamed and started trying to pull it off. The owners dashed out all apologetic. My ankle was bleeding but I didn't want to hang around.

DS1 is 13 now, and is still very very wary of dogs. It isn't always the big breeds-they are all capable of it IMO. I would rather not be around dogs if possible.

Don't be utterly fucking ridiculous. All dogs expert veterinarians deem a high risk to humans and other dogs. I wouldn't call for them to be killed instantly. I would ban them from being bred.

That was to spero

I am intrigued by what was 'utterly fucking ridiculous' about my post.

You may be upset to learn that staffys will probably fall outside your definition. But jack Russells might be in it.

Amber - but it is someone else. I pickup poo, spay, microchip etc, etc. so do lots of owners. I don't see why we should be damned because of the idiots. Why is the answer 'ban dogs' instead of properly enforcing responsible dog ownership? My life would be much poorer without my dog. I don't want to lose her

Spero, I really don't think they should be banned. But I wish more could be done to enforce sensible ownership and harsh penalties for those who flout laws/'rules' etc.

I know lots of dogs make lots of people very happy and vice versa, but very little is done about dog nuisance so there is no incentive to be sensible or not force your pet on others.

I think people should need checking before being allowed a dog, especially a more 'risky' type. And you shouldn't be allowed 4-5 big dogs in a small house! Kids lives are more important. I love dogs but think some of these breeds need more regulation. There are a few sets of scary dogs near me and it is scary just walking past. We shouldn't have to live in fear just because some people want 'guard dogs'.

If Jack Russell's are within the definition so be it. It's for experts to decide, in my view.

Also I get put off going to certain parks because people let their vicious looking big dogs jump up at DC and us.

And spero I've had three boxers over the years. I've never had a problem with them but if it were dee

Peach Activia - I absolutely HATE that stupid ditty about dogs. How on earth can you even try and compare the death of god knows how many human beings with bloody dogs?

RIP to that poor girl.

I am sorry, but what is the betting that the woman who owned these Teenage girl killing dogs had said to anyone who came across her dogs "It's OK, they're just being friendly" or "They are soft as anything, they wouldn't hurt a fly".

so if huskies or whatever are banned, i could just cross a husky with something else... is the resulting dog a husky? what proportion of husky DNA is sufficient? will every mongrel go before a vet for 'expert assessment'?

i just do not see how ops proposal is remotely feasible.

amber, i agree. i think we vring back dog licences and charge minimum £500 to fund dog wardens etc. anyone who says they cant afford that will need to explain how they propose to pay for food, training, neutering etc.

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If it were deceived they were dangerous I think I'd have to take it on the chin, because as well as having rights, we also have responsibilities.

More regulation of dog ownership would be a good thing.

Requiring a license to breed, buy or sell dogs.
Limits on the number of dogs in residential properties
Much higher penalties for allowing dogs to roam
Muzzles in public places/only being allowed off lead in designated dog parks

'Decided'

I am wary of Staffies, I'm sorry - I am.

I am quite sure that with the right family, they are fabulous dogs.

But, on the estate in our town, Staffies are paraded as status dogs, complete with heavy studded collar and no lead and lunkhead owner.

We regularly see one on our local common, an area that is a dog-off-lead haven. The owner of this muzzled, on lead Staffie barks out 'Keep Away!' to anyone that goes near. It makes everyone very nervous.

I realise that Staffies have been stigmatised, but it can't be a coincidence that they are almost always the dogs responsible for attacks.

the child killed nefore Jade was killed by a Jack Russell.

staffys are often implicated in attacks because they are owned by morons and the press likes the devil dog theme. but in terms of dogs that bite and attack, i think the highest umber of admissions to a and e are from golden retrievers or labs.

Peachactivia, go and recite your lovely poem to the family whose teenage daughter just got mauled to death by dogs, see what reception you get.

People who place dog's lives above children's and who make comparisons between dangerous dogs and the holocaust?

Not exactly worth trying to explain why that is so wrong really is it? Certainly not to you.

I agree that it is unbelievably bad taste to use the Martin Niemoller statement and substitute communists, Catholics and Jews for a bunch of bloody dog breeds.

I say that as a dog owner and lover. It is in extremely poor taste.

I agree cleangreens.

I agree. I have never heard that travesty before- and I hope I never hear it again.

Obviously no point trying to explain why it's so offensive- anybody who could post it in the first place couldn't possibly understand.

Oh, and if there are more bites from labs and goldies it's a) because there are more of them and b) because people aren't wary of them.

Just drove past all the tributes. I live round the corner from this house. Whole community in shock. I suspect most people are. Such a terrible terrible thing. That poor girl.