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Trans men playing in womens football

29 replies

Justsurfing · 19/09/2022 20:07

I play in a womens football team and was shocked to learn that our opposition team who we played yesterday had a clearly male player! Is this allowed? I know I will be called transphobic for saying this but why should a man be allowed to compete against women, I feel very uncomfortable about this and maybe this will be the only occasion I come across this all season but it just feels fundamentally wrong on so many levels. Is there anything ‘womens only’ left 😂

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Spidey66 · 19/09/2022 20:11

A trans man? So someone who was a woman and is now a man? I get why a transwoman can't compete in women's sports due to extra strength etc and are told to compete in men's sports. It works both ways, surely? 🙄

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Justsurfing · 19/09/2022 20:13

Sorry I meant trans women 🤦🏼‍♀️

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CircleofWillis · 19/09/2022 20:15

I think justsurfing means a trans woman from her 'clearly male' comment.

And I agree. It isn't fair on women or women's sport.

LondonWolf · 19/09/2022 20:17

Well this was always going to be the result of mindlessly trumpeting "Trans Women Are Women!" - not saying you did OP, but surely you must have heard that this is an increasing issue in all women's sports?

Sally872 · 19/09/2022 20:19

Following as interested to hear if anyone knows official rules/guidelines on this.

I know my dd can join a boys team but after a certain age it is not considered safe for mixed teams due to physicality of the game.

LaaDeeDaaa · 19/09/2022 20:20

My dd had to stop playing football because she was continually getting tackled by boys.

They are so brave 🙄...but my child has had to stop,doing something she enjoyed and was good at to facilitate that 'bravery'.

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Justsurfing · 19/09/2022 20:21

In my opinion trans women are absolutely not women. I have obviously seen lots on the tv about this but thought it wasn’t allowed after the whole swimmers debate. I was just so shocked. I intend to complain to the FA but I suspect this will fall on deaf ears!

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ReadingFestival2022 · 19/09/2022 21:22

LaaDeeDaaa · 19/09/2022 20:20

My dd had to stop playing football because she was continually getting tackled by boys.

They are so brave 🙄...but my child has had to stop,doing something she enjoyed and was good at to facilitate that 'bravery'.

Or she could join a girls team? There are plenty of them....

Enough4me · 19/09/2022 23:45

TW are male. I'd complain as you weren't expecting to compete against a unisex team.

Amarette · 19/09/2022 23:48

ReadingFestival2022 · 19/09/2022 21:22

Or she could join a girls team? There are plenty of them....

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She is in a girls' team but a man/boy who "feels like a woman/girl" has joined the team she is playing against.

Pixiedust1234 · 19/09/2022 23:55

ReadingFestival2022 · 19/09/2022 21:22

Or she could join a girls team? There are plenty of them....

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😂😂😂

Please come out from whenever you have been hiding. Men have been muscling in on women's sports for quite a while, under the guise of "feelz like a woman"

LaaDeeDaaa · 20/09/2022 08:02

Or she could join a girls team? There are plenty of them....

Confused She was in a girls team. She's a girl.

But so many of the girls teams they were playing have boys in them now she was getting injured from being tackled by bloody boys.

She does athletics now.

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Justsurfing · 20/09/2022 09:03

It’s disgraceful!! I feel a bit stupid if I’m honest to not have realised the extent of this issue.

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Pixiedust1234 · 20/09/2022 11:41

Justsurfing · 20/09/2022 09:03

It’s disgraceful!! I feel a bit stupid if I’m honest to not have realised the extent of this issue.

Don't feel stupid, it was a deliberate ploy to go under the radar. There's a thread ongoing atm regarding men (of various sorts) being in womens changing rooms in shops. You do realise these "men" could be using the same sport changing rooms too...while your daughters are naked. Read up about lia the USA champion swimmer forcing the other women swimmers to see "her" body. Its time to find your anger. Its happening here.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2022 18:10

Yes not only is it hugely unfair, it's a safety risk for any women playing with a male person.

Kick up hell, OP.

Toseland · 21/09/2022 13:07

I was in a pub with about 25 people and this subject came up. All of them thought a trans woman was a woman who wanted to be a man - all of them!

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 21/09/2022 13:12

Ask whether a risk assessment has been completed and if there is insurance in place to cover the costs of compensation if anyone is injured.

The risk assessment should also cover any communal changing facilities that would previously have been single sex and will now have been changed to mixed sex. Also whether the biological females have been consulted on the change of facilities and team category from single to mixed sex.

FreddyHG · 21/09/2022 13:18

Sally872 · 19/09/2022 20:19

Following as interested to hear if anyone knows official rules/guidelines on this.

I know my dd can join a boys team but after a certain age it is not considered safe for mixed teams due to physicality of the game.

Which is stupid. There should be an open category that anyone can partake in. And other categories that exclude people who have a competitive advantage like women's, youth, senior and disabled. Women can progress to the top of the sport only by being a referee and that is wrong.

kewinsurreylass · 21/09/2022 13:24

This is the whole problem with woke culture
We are told we have to accept everyone and everything
Anyone has the right no decide what sex they identify as
If we have to accept that in every other aspect of this persons life he is a woman
Is called by a female name at work
Uses female loos
it has to apply to sport as well
Even if a guy turns up and says he identifies as a woman then he has to be accepted as such
Just after lockdown a male body builder rocked up to a female competition and said he identified as a woman
He won of course and said he was just doing it to show how ridiculous all the self identifying has become
I personally know a guy who was due to be in a box at Ascot
Turned up with no tie a\nd was told at the escalator that "gentleman have to wear a tie"
His response - "how very dare you I identify as a woman"
This is a guy who is a building contractor in his 60;s wearing a suit
The stewards looked at each other - laughed and said - sorry madam carry on up
Personally I think it is nonsense but that is what the wokies want and what we have got because we all have to be oh so liberal
They do not care that for instance a strong man playing football could hurt a female

ReadingFestival2022 · 21/09/2022 13:29

Amarette · 19/09/2022 23:48

She is in a girls' team but a man/boy who "feels like a woman/girl" has joined the team she is playing against.

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My reply wasn't to the OP, but the poster mentioned in the quote....

ReadingFestival2022 · 21/09/2022 13:30

Pixiedust1234 · 19/09/2022 23:55

😂😂😂

Please come out from whenever you have been hiding. Men have been muscling in on women's sports for quite a while, under the guise of "feelz like a woman"

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Again, my comment wasn't to the OP - but to another poster.

picklemewalnuts · 21/09/2022 13:34

And the other poster has clarified her DD is in a girls team. Or was, until having to stop because of transgirls playing and injuring her.

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Justsurfing · 22/09/2022 11:51

Thanks for the responses everyone, the suggestion of asking the FA about risk assessments is great! I’ve been busy with work but got some time now so working on my complaint…… wish me luck!! I will probably be kicked out of football very soon as I also intend to refuse to play any league game where a biological male is part of the opposition team

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Helleofabore · 22/09/2022 16:16

Good luck!

I would hope that if you mention the current changes to the rugby guidelines, they might at least start registering complaints and maybe even advise you when they will do a consultation.

LaaDeeDaaa · 22/09/2022 17:51

Again, my comment wasn't to the OP - but to another poster.

My daughter is a biological female and she played on a girls team in a girls league.

I am fully aware that there are plenty of girls teams. Who doesn't know that? Confused

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