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What will Brexit mean to our family?

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CalineF · 14/03/2017 00:51

I am French. I have permanently lived in London since June 1992. I have paperwork to prove when I arrived and I can prove I also worked more than three consecutive years for the same companies over the past 25 years. I am not working a the moment due to chronic debilitating migraines. A relatively rare syndrome called HC and NDPH. All neurological treatments have so far failed.
I was engaged to a British man from Essex. John Smith is his name. I am not making this up!
We have a four year old daughter born in London.
We never married and separated two years ago.
I am the sole carer of our daughter.
I didn't apply for cityzenship. I didn't think I would need too.
Will I be asked to leave despite having leaved in London for twenty five years. Despite having worked and studied in the UK. Despite being ill and having no close relative. I am estranged to my family in France. Despite my daughter being British?
Have you any insight?

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KarmaNoMore · 14/03/2017 00:57

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BoboEK · 14/03/2017 08:13

I have a friend from Denmark who is a MD of a investment company in the City and has lived in the UK since 1989 (married to a Argentinian who lives in Tonbridge and their 2 children attend the grammar schools).

He just got a letter from Home Office asking him to leave !

He is now moving the whole company back to Denmark with the loss of x amount of Jobs from the staff that do not want and cannot re-locate.

What a cluster Fxxx, I am so embarrassed to be English right now.

salsaysthis · 14/03/2017 08:30

Really Bobo Shock On what basis did they ask him to leave??

I am an EU citizen (Czech) but married my English husband earlier this year as was getting scared about getting kicked out. Very romantic registry office wedding Grin

Peregrina · 14/03/2017 08:48

He just got a letter from Home Office asking him to leave !

Was this one of those 'prepare to leave' letters, which the Dutch lady whose case became famous a few weeks back received?

I think OP, you need proper advice from an Immigration lawyer.

TinyTear · 14/03/2017 08:55

Bobo, that seems odd as Broxit hasn't been activated yet...

I am from a EU country and have been here since 2000, also married to a Brit and have 2 British children.

I am now collating paperwork for my Permanent Leave to Remain and will get the citizenship straight after.

I am regretting shredding a lot of documents from the 2000-2005 period but i think i have enough bank statements and payslips to cover me...

and paid £40 for electoral roll data as well...

TinyTear · 14/03/2017 08:55

OP, I have hired an immigration lawyer. I can PM you her details if you need

frenchfancy · 14/03/2017 08:58

I don't think anyone can answer you definitely, but there is certainly a risk that you might be asked to leave.

One of the problems is that you don't work, and presumably therefore don't have private medical insurance.

You cannot be forced to leave a the moment, you are an EU national and for the moment the UK is still in the EU. All will depend on the negotiations. It is easy to say get a lawyer, but they don't come cheap.

What a worrying time you, and other families like you, must be having.

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CalineF · 14/03/2017 13:29

What does OP stand for?

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Bearbehind · 14/03/2017 13:31

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bignamechangeroonie · 14/03/2017 13:32

They can't possibly be asking the Danish bloke to leave, WHO is doing this? It's not been triggered so literally NOTHING should have happened yet Confused

ImperialBlether · 14/03/2017 13:36

Much as I am a Remainer and I do believe these things will happen in the future, I think there are an awful lot of urban myths around.

We are still in Europe. Denmark is in Europe. There's no way he could have been asked to leave. He might be in the future, but not yet.

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CalineF · 14/03/2017 13:41

I believe for a permanent remain leave I need to be working. I have to do some research.
I am contemplating applying for cityzenship but £1400 is a lot of money. I am a single mother with no support from family and from the father of my daughter. I despised him for the mess he left us in. She was a planned pregnancy. We were to get married. Then he changed and choose alcohol. He abandoned us. As a result of is behaviour under alcohol, he is not even allowed to see his daughter without first consulting solicitors. What a mess!
What about my four years old child? She is British. She has never been in France.

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Peregrina · 14/03/2017 13:49

There's no way he could have been asked to leave. He might be in the future, but not yet.
But then a Dutch woman and a German man were both asked to leave, so it's perfectly possible.

lalalonglegs · 14/03/2017 15:14

OP - you might ask to have some of the details removed from your posts, it makes you and your ex quite identifying (even if his name is very common).

I don't know if you will be asked to leave. EU citizens have been left in such a disgusting mess by this shitty referendum. All I can say is that if the UK decides that it is going to pick and choose who can stay from the people who came here legitimately and built their lives here, then I imagine there will be one hell of a class action and the government would be kept very busy fighting court cases. Good luck Flowers.

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CalineF · 14/03/2017 20:39

@lalalonglegs There is no risk of him or me being identified.
How can you remove any part on a post? I can not see any option to allow a poster to do so.

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ShoutOutToMyEx · 14/03/2017 20:53

I am an EU citizen (Czech) but married my English husband earlier this year as was getting scared about getting kicked out.

Ahoj Sal Smile

We're getting married this year and DP is applying for British citizenship as soon as he's able (a few months). I hope that'll be enough but who's to say.

KarmaNoMore · 15/03/2017 08:19

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Lalelou · 15/03/2017 08:40

OP Thanks all I can say is get your papers in order and apply for the LR card. Others will have more insight and will be able to help with practical suggestions.

I am unable to process in my head that our government is acting in such a hostile way toward our European friends who have chosen to make a life here and who are part of the fabric of our society.

I am outraged at this and flabbergasted that British people don't seem to mind terribly.

As far as I am aware there has been no public outcry as there was with Trump's Muslim travel ban.

Mistigri · 16/03/2017 07:32

I'd advise downloading these free ebook guides to making a permanent residency application:

www.freemovement.org.uk/free-ebook-application-guides-for-eu-citizens/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=free-ebook-application-guides-for-eu-citizens

If you can't afford an immigration lawyer, then join one of the social media groups for EU citizens - someone should be able to give advice (but be careful about legal advice from strangers whose legal qualifications you can't check).

Unfortunately it sounds like you may be one of the EU citizens who falls into the Home Office's traps re health insurance for people who are not in work. So get advice before spending money on an application that may fail.

For those doubting that the Home Office has been sending "prepare to leave" letters to EU citizens who have been in the UK for decades - have you been living under a rock?!

frenchfancy · 16/03/2017 08:00

I have been thinking about you and wondering what I would do in your situation. We are on the other side of the coin, Brits living in France, but fortunately obtained French nationality last year so are safe.

All of the suggestions here have you fighting to stay in Britain, which may be costly and may well not succeed. As Mistrigri says the lack of health insurance is likey to pose a problem in temrs of leave to remain.

Have you considered instead putting you efforts into finding somewhere to go in France? Does your daughter speak French - if not then that would be a good place to start (though I suspect she does). Find out everything you can about the French benefits you might be entitled to, which areas have expertise in your health condition. Do you have no friends in France at all?

I am not saying give up - I am merely pointing out that if you do have to leave you will be better off if you have all the information you need up front.

LurkingHusband · 16/03/2017 13:56

There's no way he could have been asked to leave

Is this a pantomime ?

Oh yes there is !

www.gov.uk/eea-registration-certificate/overview

takes you to

www.gov.uk/family-permit/retained-rights-of-residence

which explains that even as an EU citizen, you need to fulfil certain criteria to live in the UK. And currently the Home Office is having a field day going through their records, and contacting people to "catch out".

This is all being done under an existing EU treaty, and something the UK has always had the option to do (much like being able to control non-EU immigration). But none of this should come as a surprise to anyone - in particular anyone on this forum. After all, we were all fully informed. Weren't we ?

BoboEK · 16/03/2017 14:18

Exactly. It is happening, which disgusts me.

LurkingHusband · 16/03/2017 14:39

BoboEK

If you're so concerned about foreigners rights, perhaps you should give up your UK citizenship and fuck off abroad ?

as MrsLH was told in the hospital, recently ...

BoboEK · 16/03/2017 15:01

It's a sad state of affairs unfortunately.

WhynothaveaKidsDay · 16/03/2017 15:04

My BIL (married to ds) is Italian and hasn't got British citizenship. He doesn't seem to be worried but I am worried that my Dsis and Dn x2 will have to move abroad Sad.