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Caroline Lucas is attempting to get Proportional Representation back on the agenda. If you agree, please support her.

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crossroads3 · 19/07/2016 06:32

Tomorrow (the 20th) Caroline Lucas will be putting forward a 10 minute rule bill proposing that Proportional Representation and the reduction of the minimum voting age to 16 become a fully fledged parliamentary bill. If you agree, please write to your MP.

ukgeneralelection2020.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/ask-your-mp-to-vote-for-caroline-lucass.html?m=1

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Sooverthis · 19/07/2016 07:10

No I won't 16 is too young, proportional representation means coalitions and Caroline Lucas is a total arse

WidowWadman · 19/07/2016 07:13

I wouldn't write to my MP exactly because I agree with Lucas - don't want to alert him to something he undoubtedly would vote down

tiggytape · 19/07/2016 07:15

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QueenLaBeefah · 19/07/2016 07:16

I think 16 is too young.

QueenLaBeefah · 19/07/2016 07:17

And if we had PR we would have quite a lot of UKIP MPs. With Brexit going on maybe we have enough "reform" going on?

WidowWadman · 19/07/2016 07:20

I'm not sure if a Tory majority with no working opposition is any better. Yes UKIP may gain some MPs, but so would greens and libdems, which are currently completely shut out.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/07/2016 07:21

I don't mind PR, although wasn't there s got to change in 2011? You can't keep getting people to vote every 5 minutes on everything.

I don't agree with the voting age being lowered to 16.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/07/2016 07:23

I think UKIP would gain hugely unless Article 50 and leaving the eu is actually activated.

QueenLaBeefah · 19/07/2016 07:24

UKIP would have 80 MPs and be the third largest party. I'll give it a miss, thanks.

tiggytape · 19/07/2016 07:32

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/07/2016 07:34

tiggy i can't see a need for UKIP past leaving the eu. Would there still be massive support for them once this has happened?

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/07/2016 07:36

.....The opposite of if we hasn't voted Brexit, UKIP would have risen substantially to take huge swathes of seats.

tiggytape · 19/07/2016 07:40

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QueenLaBeefah · 19/07/2016 07:40

Do you think is Scotland went independent the SNP would suddenly cease to exist?

You are being naive if you think UKIP would simply dissapear.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/07/2016 07:46

I would imagine if Scotland went independent then other parties would rise, yes. Again, their reason for existing would have been fulfilled giving voters the luxury of looking at other parties they might be interested in voting for.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/07/2016 07:46

their reason = SNP

Twooter · 19/07/2016 07:50

So much for democracy if you only want it if the right people gain..

I don't think it's great that the SNP have such a big role in Westminster relative to its vote share.

tiggytape · 19/07/2016 08:02

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AveEldon · 19/07/2016 08:07

It's only 5 years since we had the referendum on AV - not the same as PR but it was rejected

LunaLoveg00d · 19/07/2016 08:09

I do agree with PR and voted in favour whenever it was we had the referendum. I don't support Caroline Lucas though and support my SNP MP even less - the man is an arrogant, vain person who blocked me and several others on Twitter for pointing out that the photo he was using on his election material was at least 25 years old.

No point in writing to him as he only listens to the SNP faithful, and SNP MPs are incapable of independent (excuse the pun) thinking, they move en masse and follow proclamations from the top.

prettybird · 19/07/2016 08:59

You can't extrapolate how people voted under FPTP in 2011 to how they would vote in an election based on PR.

And despite the fact that the SNP benefitted from FPTP in 2011, they're still in favour of a PR system.

We didn't really get a vote on PR when we had the referendum: we had a vote on AV, which is really just another way of perpetuating a confrontational party system, only this time with the dictating party of power being claim a complete mandate for everything that they do Sad - when it's not really a vote "for" them.

RortyCrankle · 19/07/2016 09:05

Absolutely not, I disagree with both PR and 16 year olds voting.

80sMum · 19/07/2016 09:20

I don't think that 16-year-olds should be able to vote; they are still children.

tiggytape · 19/07/2016 09:25

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AntiqueSinger · 19/07/2016 09:36

I'm very surprised that people seem to feel that 16 year olds should not have the right to vote. They have the vote in Scotland, and both my 17 and 14 year olds would have jumped at the chance to vote in the EU referendum and are very upset that they did not get a say. They understood the issues far better than many adults, I can tell you.

Also I am very concerned about the future of young people economically and otherwise and feel they are being very hard done by and ignored by the mainstream media and politicians. I would be very happy for the voting age to be reduced to 16.

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