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Conflict in the Middle East

Trump: "Might have forced Israel's hand on Iran"

62 replies

Ihatetomatoes · 03/03/2026 17:22

So Trump confirms it was him not Israel pushing this.

BBC news today

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/03/2026 17:24

Trumps interview also criticised UK "Very, very uncooperative" "ruined relationships", "giving that Island away" ... etc

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/03/2026 17:25

The Chagos deal really annoys him

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/03/2026 17:26

Apparently the UK has Sharia courts ajudicatting law.

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Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 18:06

Sorry but I had to laugh at his comment about Starmer, "This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with."

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 18:08

Even better: In response to the dig, Labour MP Toby Perkins hit back, "Well, it's not Franklin Roosevelt that we're dealing with either.

EsmaCannonball · 03/03/2026 22:30

Ultimately this is about the USA vs China; Israel vs Iran is just a small theatre in a bigger conflict.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/03/2026 22:31

EsmaCannonball · 03/03/2026 22:30

Ultimately this is about the USA vs China; Israel vs Iran is just a small theatre in a bigger conflict.

It’s about the Epstein files. People re dying to distract us.

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 06:16

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/03/2026 22:31

It’s about the Epstein files. People re dying to distract us.

What a ridiculous comment. Did the thousands of Iranian protestors who got murdered by their own government also die to distract us?

Don't you care about them at all or the threat of Iran developing nuclear weapons? Maybe Iran were developing high purity uranium to distract us from the Epstein files.

Is every war in the world started just to protect some high up leaders from personal scandals that might have been coming their way? Or might the reasons be extremely varied and complex?

JoeyHeathertonwhenyoucallmebabyNsoul · 04/03/2026 06:32

44,000 gun deaths on average in America and US Govt sits on its hands.
Trump has no right to attack countries that don't jump to attention with threats of tariffs etc.
A world statesman he is not ,the base ball caps,the we bombed the crap out of them comments.
If the current Iranian regime falls the power vacuum could be catastrophic.
Iraq,Afghanistan,Libya ring any bells.

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 06:54

EsmaCannonball · 03/03/2026 22:30

Ultimately this is about the USA vs China; Israel vs Iran is just a small theatre in a bigger conflict.

China is keeping out of it. Their official response:

China is deeply concerned over the current situation. China firmly opposes the use of force in international relations or infringement on other countries’ sovereignty and security. The priority now is to immediately stop military operations and prevent the spread and spillover of the conflict. China stands ready to work with the international community to call for peace and stop the conflict, resolve issues through dialogue and negotiations, and maintain peace and stability in the Middle East and the world at large.

www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xw/fyrbt/202603/t20260302_11867202.html

Pinkissmart · 04/03/2026 06:55

Hang on, the USA takes over Venezuela ‘s oil, AND THEN starts attacking Iran while oil prices skyrocket? Huh. I wonder if they will make a lot of money from it🤠

EasternStandard · 04/03/2026 07:04

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 06:16

What a ridiculous comment. Did the thousands of Iranian protestors who got murdered by their own government also die to distract us?

Don't you care about them at all or the threat of Iran developing nuclear weapons? Maybe Iran were developing high purity uranium to distract us from the Epstein files.

Is every war in the world started just to protect some high up leaders from personal scandals that might have been coming their way? Or might the reasons be extremely varied and complex?

It is ridiculous. For the reasons you mention.

MushMonster · 04/03/2026 07:06

So what happened to Rubio's take on this? Do they actually talk about these things? Because .....
I do not believe a word any of them say.
I am surprised they manage to tie their shoes on in the mornings.

MushMonster · 04/03/2026 07:07

Pinkissmart · 04/03/2026 06:55

Hang on, the USA takes over Venezuela ‘s oil, AND THEN starts attacking Iran while oil prices skyrocket? Huh. I wonder if they will make a lot of money from it🤠

That is more like it!
I buy this explanation.

Nutmuncher · 04/03/2026 07:12

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 18:06

Sorry but I had to laugh at his comment about Starmer, "This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with."

Me too

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 07:18

Nutmuncher · 04/03/2026 07:12

Me too

I think Kemi will have some fun with that on PMQs.

Though actually, I do agree with Starmer's stance at the moment.

Ihatetomatoes · 04/03/2026 07:56

Twiglets1 · 03/03/2026 18:08

Even better: In response to the dig, Labour MP Toby Perkins hit back, "Well, it's not Franklin Roosevelt that we're dealing with either.

Brilliant, I didn't hear that

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Ihatetomatoes · 04/03/2026 08:02

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/03/2026 22:31

It’s about the Epstein files. People re dying to distract us.

Oh dear. People still trotting out that conspiracy rubbish.

The Epstein files have been dominating the news on and off for a long time now and will continue to do do.

Are you completely unaware of Iran and its proxies of terrorists, attempts to develop nuclear weapons, mass slaughter of its own people, at least 20 (foiled) terror attacks in the UK snd more worldwide, and on and on ....

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EsmaCannonball · 04/03/2026 08:13

People say 'It's all about oil' as if that completely invalidates a war. Natural resources are always a major strategic part of any hot or cold war.

China is heavily dependent on cheap oil imports from Iran. They allow it to consistently undercut other economies and are helping it on its way to becoming the new world superpower.

In turn, the Iranian regime gets money and Chinese technology which allow it to survive sanctions and continue its campaigns of oppression, terrorism and proxy wars.

In turn, if Iran became the China-dependent dominant power in the Middle East it would allow China to control the Suez canal and the Strait of Hormuz, effectively controlling much of the world's economy.

So, yes, a lot of this is about oil, but who has oil and who gets oil is important.

Boolabus · 04/03/2026 08:54

EsmaCannonball · 04/03/2026 08:13

People say 'It's all about oil' as if that completely invalidates a war. Natural resources are always a major strategic part of any hot or cold war.

China is heavily dependent on cheap oil imports from Iran. They allow it to consistently undercut other economies and are helping it on its way to becoming the new world superpower.

In turn, the Iranian regime gets money and Chinese technology which allow it to survive sanctions and continue its campaigns of oppression, terrorism and proxy wars.

In turn, if Iran became the China-dependent dominant power in the Middle East it would allow China to control the Suez canal and the Strait of Hormuz, effectively controlling much of the world's economy.

So, yes, a lot of this is about oil, but who has oil and who gets oil is important.

People say 'It's all about oil' as if that completely invalidates a war

I think people are just highlighting that it is not about the reasons Trump has given for the war to his citizens, whether oil is a valid and justified reason to go to war is an entirely different topic for discussion.

kirinm · 04/03/2026 08:56

MushMonster · 04/03/2026 07:06

So what happened to Rubio's take on this? Do they actually talk about these things? Because .....
I do not believe a word any of them say.
I am surprised they manage to tie their shoes on in the mornings.

This is Israel’s war with Trump joining in

Trump:  "Might have forced Israel's hand on Iran"
Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 09:06

kirinm · 04/03/2026 08:56

This is Israel’s war with Trump joining in

The old antisemitic troop that the Jews control everything… Trump does what Trump wants to do. I thought everyone knew that at least, whether they like or loath him.

EasternStandard · 04/03/2026 09:10

EsmaCannonball · 04/03/2026 08:13

People say 'It's all about oil' as if that completely invalidates a war. Natural resources are always a major strategic part of any hot or cold war.

China is heavily dependent on cheap oil imports from Iran. They allow it to consistently undercut other economies and are helping it on its way to becoming the new world superpower.

In turn, the Iranian regime gets money and Chinese technology which allow it to survive sanctions and continue its campaigns of oppression, terrorism and proxy wars.

In turn, if Iran became the China-dependent dominant power in the Middle East it would allow China to control the Suez canal and the Strait of Hormuz, effectively controlling much of the world's economy.

So, yes, a lot of this is about oil, but who has oil and who gets oil is important.

Appreciate these posts on the bigger picture.

kirinm · 04/03/2026 09:12

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 09:06

The old antisemitic troop that the Jews control everything… Trump does what Trump wants to do. I thought everyone knew that at least, whether they like or loath him.

Oh do give it a rest. Israel were going to attack Iran. America have joined in but not because there was any threat.

This isn’t made ffs. America have said it!

EasternStandard · 04/03/2026 09:16

kirinm · 04/03/2026 09:12

Oh do give it a rest. Israel were going to attack Iran. America have joined in but not because there was any threat.

This isn’t made ffs. America have said it!

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I don’t think @Twiglets1should ‘give it a rest’ as you kindly put, she has a point.