Over 1000 people have been kidnapped from the West Bank

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https://x.com/hzomlot/status/1966180514819178597?s=46

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1966231029779452199?s=46

taken without charge, to be held indefinitely.

Any analysis or opinions on this, or are you just link-dropping?

Well it’s obviously shocking? I don’t think there needs to be much more analysis does there? Unless you think this is justified?

Its quite a lot of extrapolation from a few seconds of footage on social media.

Maybe wait and see?

Do you think there may be an innocent explanation for this?

I've absolutely no idea.

I wouldn't like to speculate. Theres a lot of anger, hatred and lies around this conflict and I don't want to add to it but commenting on something I know absolutely nothing about.

I see. I would have thought that anyone could tell that there is something extremely sinister happening in these videos.

A source linked to Hamas, nice!

Here is mediabias/factcheck's summary:

Overall, we rate Quds News Network as Left-leaning in bias and questionable due to a lack of transparency, the promotion of propaganda, poor sourcing, and numerous failed fact checks.

Choose your sources more carefully @IGaveSoManySigns

Sources linked to Hamas are not reputable.

Nowhere does that say it’s linked to Hamas. It’s just not far right.

I was shocked to see no news coverage of this at all. What modern liberal country acts like this? Are there any precidents?

It seems completely unacceptable.

It terms of bias - you can seem the footage with your own eyes- it's not AI.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjojidlixe

Not sure on the final numbers but it seems part of a wider range of measures including curfews in response to a roadside bomb.

So more collective punishment.

Ynet
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjojidlixe

Middle Eastern Eye
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-forces-carry-out-mass-arrests-occupied-west-banks-tulkarem

The New Arab
https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-forces-pull-out-tulkarm-after-siege-mass-arrests

Here's an idea.

Since Israels reaction is predictably disproportionate, how about Islamic Jihad, Hamas, and any other assorted Palestinian terrorists simply just stop the terrorism?

Then Israel would have no excuse, right?

I think they should try it.

And then the international community would have ( even more ) sympathy with their cause.

I can't imagine what it's like living under a power that behaves like this though.
It's a cycle that will continue... Curfews, mass detentions only serve to create resistance movements.
This has been evident throughout history. I don't know if it should be up to the Occupied and oppressed people to take the higher ground.

Yes.

Don't studies show peaceful resistance is more likely to succeed than violent? I haven't got time to look it up right now.

It's a life and death game of who blinks first.

Palestinian terrorism has been going on since 1948 though, and we're no further along... the portion of land assumed to be part of the official Palestinian state keeps shrinking. What they are doing isnt working if the measure of success is improved quality of life for Palestinians. It is working if tje measure of success is increased hatred for Israel.

I wish they'd try something new.

Also- and perhaps a little off topic, why isn't Hamas sitting down with Fatah in the WB and saying- sorry about 2005 / 6, but its time we came back together to try to get our homeland... you take over Gaza, give us safe passage, we'll all promise no more violence, let's give that a try. Current strategy isnt working.

Do you really think Israel need an excuse? They want the West Bank for themselves, how have you not noticed this. They protect settlers as they burn villages, shoot people, steal their homes and livilhoods. You think they should just submit to that?

Ah yeah sure Yoseph, you can have my land, I'll be no bother at all, come on family, Yosef here wants our olive groves and if we want sympathy we have to just hand it over to him and hope that the international community who have been ignoring this for decades will get it back for us.

I mean where was this roadside bomb, in Israel or Palestine? My bet is it was in Palestine. Why are the IDF policing Palestine? Who gave them power there? The whole thing is just so twisted but yeah Palestinians just need to behave themselves better then their overlords will somehow grow a conscience that has been missing for decades, fuck off back to Israel and leave them to live in peace. That definitely sounds like it would work.

So just continue with the violence then yeah?

You think terrorism is the way forward? You think they should continue shooting people at bus stops and setting roadside bombs? Attacking kids at parties?

Honestly why not try a different way?

Its not going great so far is it?

Do you think its imminently about to get better?

It comes to something when you can’t really tell if a poster is referring to one side over another

I think if Israelis were in Israel then they wouldn't even know about this roadside bomb or the shooting at the bus stop.

Instead of telling Palestinians to behave for their occupiers we could try telling Israel to go home.

Fair point.

Israel should get out of the WB and go home. Take their bloody settlers with them.

Palestinians should stop using terrorism as a mean of political protest.

Maybe that would be a start.

I think peaceful resistance should always be the preferred aim by everyone. Do you think genuinely though that Israel will trust and allow peaceful protests and do you think they will work to change the current stalemate?

Both sides have overused ( for want of a better word) violence both Hamas in it's violent bloody massacre and Israel since then.

There were peaceful protests in Israel and they just labelled them as Hamas. Israel don’t care

This is what the IDF have been doing there for months.
(+972 Magazine
June 5 2025)
In Nur Shams and Tulkarem, Israeli incursions leave ‘nothing to salvage’
Since January, the army has depopulated the two West Bank camps and destroyed hundreds of homes, while turning others into barracks.
www.972mag.com/nur-shams-tulkarem-army-destruction/

Under BN no, I don't think peaceful protest would win political ends.

But I do 100% think it would mean less retaliatory violence, even under BN.

And I honestly think if Palestinian leadership were to put out a statement on behalf of both Gaza and WB that there would be no more violence and Hamas were gone, hostages returned, and for say for example 6m; no rockets, no bombs, no terrorism, no shootings, peaceful delegations sent to the USA and Europe to advocate the Palestinian cause, international pressure would be such that a real peace process to a 2ss could start.

The constant use of violence isnt working for Palestinians is it? In neither Gaza or the WB are their lives improving.

They should try another way. Its their future, after all. Israel is taking care of its own. Palestinian leadership should try the same. I think under a moderate leadership next year, they could get their homeland.