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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel added to the blacklist of those countries that kill children

59 replies

EasterIssland · 07/06/2024 18:15

This is the first time that Israel and Hamas have been included on this list, joining the ranks of Russia, the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Afghanistan, Iraq, Myanmar, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. The allegations against Israel mean that it is believed to be the first democratic country included on the list.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-adds-israel-to-list-of-shame-for-alleged-rights-violations-against-children-during-war-netanyahu-delusional/

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ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:41

Sorry are people here unaware of the 15k+ children the state of Israel has killed in the last 8 months?

Why are you more outraged about this being said out loud than you are about all the slaughter?

MrsJackThornton · 08/06/2024 23:41

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:31

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

The point of the post was likely that hate speech is unacceptable.

And Mumsnet agreed.

Anyone in their right mind has an issue with the demonization of the sovereign state of Israel in a war against terrorists.

I don't think the response to any terrorist attack should be the death of thousands of children

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:44

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:36

It may be discredited to you but certainly not to me and many others. The harm to children is clear to see the witholding of food and aid, the dismantling of medical care, the denial of an education, the destruction of homes, I'm sure we both agree that those in themselves cause great harm. I don't feel it is demonising to point out the obvious, I feel that to ignore it would show that people have lost their minds.

Why are you deflecting?

Pointing out the obvious doesn't get deleted.

Hate speech does.

Dulra · 08/06/2024 23:46

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:31

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

The point of the post was likely that hate speech is unacceptable.

And Mumsnet agreed.

Anyone in their right mind has an issue with the demonization of the sovereign state of Israel in a war against terrorists.

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

Discredited by who? Who other than Israel considers them anti Israel?

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:49

If you support hate speech, there's just no way you can be posting on this topic in good faith.

Catch yourselves on!

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:50

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:44

Why are you deflecting?

Pointing out the obvious doesn't get deleted.

Hate speech does.

I'm not deflecting. If you were talking about the deleted post then I didn't see it, I can't comment on it, you didnt quote it so it just looks like your post is a rant in response to the OP.

I'm responding to your post where you say that the UN is anti Israel and discredited. I don't believe that it is. I can see and I presume you can see the great harm being done to children. The UN are just saying outloud what we can all see and I am grateful that someone is.

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:51

If saying that Israel kills children is hate speech then I give up 🤦‍♀️

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:51

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:50

I'm not deflecting. If you were talking about the deleted post then I didn't see it, I can't comment on it, you didnt quote it so it just looks like your post is a rant in response to the OP.

I'm responding to your post where you say that the UN is anti Israel and discredited. I don't believe that it is. I can see and I presume you can see the great harm being done to children. The UN are just saying outloud what we can all see and I am grateful that someone is.

Edited

How convenient

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:53

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:51

If saying that Israel kills children is hate speech then I give up 🤦‍♀️

That's not what you said. Which is why you were deleted for spreading the blood libel.

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:54

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:51

How convenient

I don't understand? I'm trying to have a conversation in good faith about the thread topic but it feels like you are trying to play some kind of game. Is there a reason you don't want to stick to the topic of the thread instead of what feels like attacking me for doing so?

Dulra · 08/06/2024 23:55

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:49

If you support hate speech, there's just no way you can be posting on this topic in good faith.

Catch yourselves on!

That's ridiculous. Report the thread to Mumsnet and get the thread deleted but don't accuse people of supporting hate speech for posting on it. If you report the thread and it's not deleted does that mean Mumsnet also support hate speech?

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:56

I said that Israel had killed babies. Which it has.

https://x.com/hzomlot/status/1799539297365659897?t=rcUZ7gQ8OJ5d7L3q1LdFcw&s=19

I'd advise anyone who cares about Palestinians not to look at this tweet but for those who don't believe Israel kills children here is the scene from the latest massacre. This happened today.

x.com

https://x.com/hzomlot/status/1799539297365659897?s=19&t=rcUZ7gQ8OJ5d7L3q1LdFcw

Scirocco · 08/06/2024 23:57

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:51

If saying that Israel kills children is hate speech then I give up 🤦‍♀️

People and governments should take responsibility for their actions and the consequences of those actions. If a government is aware that a proposed course of action is likely to disproportionately destroy the lives of children, then they should seek to mitigate that and be accountable for their actions. I've not seen any evidence of meaningful or effective efforts to do so, nor of anyone taking responsibility for the deaths of thousands of children and the life-changing trauma of many more.

Dulra · 09/06/2024 00:00

Scirocco · 08/06/2024 23:57

People and governments should take responsibility for their actions and the consequences of those actions. If a government is aware that a proposed course of action is likely to disproportionately destroy the lives of children, then they should seek to mitigate that and be accountable for their actions. I've not seen any evidence of meaningful or effective efforts to do so, nor of anyone taking responsibility for the deaths of thousands of children and the life-changing trauma of many more.

Or an ounce of remorse

FindThatThing · 09/06/2024 08:17

Good.
As they should be.
Should have been decades ago.

Shrover · 09/06/2024 08:39

I didn’t see the deleted tweet so can only presume the reference to blood libel that has upset Duskybluedepartinglight and Purplechrayn was that specific tweet, and not the inclusion of Israel in this list? Because whilst we know the blood libel was a myth created to stir up antisemitism, we can all see what is happening in Gaza via creditable news agencies. Just as we could the mass murder committed by Hamas in October.

Who has discredited the UN?

Auvergne63 · 09/06/2024 17:10

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.
Then why is Israel still a member of the UN? Discredited? By whom?

Finallyloggedin · 10/06/2024 20:38

https://x.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/1800112924029247878?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Jon Snow news report back from 2015. Israel has been waging war on children for a very long time.

x.com

https://x.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/1800112924029247878?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

PearlKoala · 10/06/2024 20:43

Finallyloggedin · 10/06/2024 20:38

https://x.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/1800112924029247878?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Jon Snow news report back from 2015. Israel has been waging war on children for a very long time.

He must be mistaken surely, didn't this all start on Oct 7?

Dulra · 10/06/2024 20:49

Finallyloggedin · 10/06/2024 20:38

https://x.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/1800112924029247878?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Jon Snow news report back from 2015. Israel has been waging war on children for a very long time.

I know he's retired but would love to hear his take on what is happening in Gaza now.

Lightcity · 10/06/2024 20:53

PearlKoala · 10/06/2024 20:43

He must be mistaken surely, didn't this all start on Oct 7?

Mocking October 7th-that's a new low, even for this thread.

ConnieCounter · 10/06/2024 20:54

Lightcity · 10/06/2024 20:53

Mocking October 7th-that's a new low, even for this thread.

You're going out of your way to be outraged by something you've imagined was said.

PearlKoala · 10/06/2024 20:57

Lightcity · 10/06/2024 20:53

Mocking October 7th-that's a new low, even for this thread.

Perhaps you could break it down for me and explain how exactly I 'mocked' Oct 7? Or are you just plopping in with some faux outrage in an attempt to derail the thread?

Lightcity · 10/06/2024 20:57

There was no mistaking the tone.

PearlKoala · 10/06/2024 20:58

Lightcity · 10/06/2024 20:57

There was no mistaking the tone.

Yeah, just as I thought.

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