Israel now bombing Lebanon and Syria too …

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Cruel acts

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-intensify-gaza-strikes-us-pushes-more-aid-2023-10-22/

@FOJN
Right. Is that you implying that the 1400 slaughtered Israelis deserved it, or that it wasn't terrorism?

Anyway, it sounds like this won't be a very productive discussion as clearly only one side are victims in your eyes. Fascinating take on a very complicated situation, so I'm relieved to see you have all the answers. Hopefully your incredible insight into all this will help lead to peace. Unless it's not peace you want? Sort of getting those vibes from you, but happy to be corrected!

Both ‘governments’ could be considered far right, facist and racist to be fair.
I feel really conflicted about this whole conflict.

I believe Israel has the right to exist, especially following the ethnic cleansing and genocide they have faced over hundreds of years. Jewish people deserve a ‘safe’ country.
I believe they have the right to defend themselves against a country/regime who want them erased from the map. ‘From the river to the sea’.

But then you see the withdrawal of water etc, hundreds of civilians dead with hospitals and schools targeted.

But then Hamas are hiding the weapons in these places.

I don’t know what to think.

A two state solution is the only way in my mind, but I don’t think we’ll ever see it

Made in 2017 with Trocaire an Irish voluntary group working in Palestine
https://vimeo.com/221868603

Read both my posts again and try not to make random accusations about the motives of people you know nothing about.

For someone who claims to be interested in peace you seem very committed to starting arguments with randoms on the internet.

@FOJN
Still can't make sense of what you mean then. You say you understand what I'm saying, but then your comments imply you don't. Maybe it's the use of ... that's making your point not come across? So to be clear, you agree that Israelis have been terrorised and that as a result of being terrorised since the formation of their state that they are by definition also victims? If so, glad we're in agreement on this point

This is just stupid, of course Israel fired rockets back.