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TTC Oh and Lap and Dyes!

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sarah1986 · 22/10/2007 20:21

Hi im 21 and being ttc first time now for 2years.
Last month i was refered to speacilist, at last someone listening to me!
Anyway having a lap and dye on thurs, just read a few people saying they fell pregnant after this, dont want to get my hopes up though, thats just too painful!
Please someone reply i feel so lonely, all my friends are free and single, dreading the thought of having a baby!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/10/2007 20:28

Hi Sarah,

Good luck re the lap on Thursday - what made them decide on this course of action?. Was it due to very painful periods?. I ask this as this is commonly done for such reasons (endometriosis is commonly diagnosed via this op).

Having had a lap type procedure done myself I can attest to the fear of same being worse than the reality. I was advised to have two days off work post op.

The post op pain in the shoulders can be intense but painkillers should take the edge off it. That I found was the worst thing about this operation. The pain in the shoulders comes about because the carbon dioxide gas that is pumped in to give the surgeon a better view moves upwards.

I hope the cons has given you a follow up appointment a week or so post op to discuss the findings of the lap operation. If this has not happened I would ask why this is and insist you are followed up properly post op.

Good luck on Thursday!!.

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sarah1986 · 22/10/2007 20:39

Hi thanks for the advice, I just want it done now!
Yep very painful periods-sickess and fainting.
I know it probably sounds crazy but i almost want them to find something wrong so it can be sorted n a can concieve.
Id been to the doctors so often, the last time i went i actually refused to leave the surgery until i was refered to a specialist.All doctors i had seen said - oh the only thing to stop the pain is to go back on the pil-umm that doesnt exactly help to make a baby! Anyway the speacilist was great-someone who didnt just say dont worry your young! I think everyones different, ive been wiv partner for 5yrs, we own our own home, have decent jobs and are very settled. Were both ready! Is it true sometimes having a lap and dye can actually help to concieve?! Sorry ive gone on!

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cedar12 · 22/10/2007 22:30

Hi Sarah I am also having a lap and dye soon had one in the past it not to bad. Just a bit sore and tired afterwards. If they dont find any major prob it help to flush out your tubes and can help ttc for the 3 months afterwards. Good Luck for thursday. Quick question does any one know if it can be done whilst on period I am due to have it done and it going to be a bit tight with dates etc hopefully would have finished but might be on the tale end of af.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 23/10/2007 09:17

Hi Sarah,

Am glad you've finally got someone to take you seriously.

Endometriosis is a common cause of very painful periods. Methinks this is why they are doing the lap - its commonly diagnosed this way as other tests (e.g blood tests and ultrasounds) do not detect it.

I would ensure that this is not solely done as a purely diagnostic procedure; you do not need any more surgery than you need. Ask the surgeon beforehand what he intends to do if endometriosis is found. Your previous doctors have shown great ignorance. Less said about them the better.

You may want to look at www.endo.org.uk anyway as it may help you; this is the website of Endometriosis UK.

I can give you some questions to ask post lap op if you so wish.

RahRah1 · 23/10/2007 09:30

HI Sarah

I'm not sure if its true or a coincidence but when I went for a lap and dye my friend kept saying she had heard of loads of people catching afterwards and guess what I did too. I caught on the same month as I had it. Maybe the dye grabs some sperm on the way up the tubes and lobes it at the egg??? Who knows? But good luck and hope you catch very soon!

I'm TTC again, but because they have already done a lap and dye I can't really ask for another one....lol... so having IUI this time. Fingers crossed XX

RahRah1 · 23/10/2007 09:31

Rah waves at 'Attila' - Hope you had a good holiday!

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sarah1986 · 25/10/2007 15:36

Hi laydees! Just sat on sofa after my lap and dye! All went well - They found everything was totally fine, no endometrioses which to be honest i was suprised! Very happy, have heard a few people say how they beleive it helped them concieve- Really dont want to get my hopes up but.......its hard not to! Felt bit sick but wasnt actually, gave me morphine for pain as was in agony when came round and felt like i was as drunk as a skunk! Pain in shoulders and tummy not too bad now, lots of blood from wounds though?!

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DracuRAH · 26/10/2007 11:20

Good news Sarah... Fab that everything is clear. Your right the morphine makes you feel drunk... I was telling the hospital how great they were, where in fact the hospital was a shit hole and normally I would of been moaning about cleanliness
God what a moan bag!
Well best of luck and lets hope the procedure helped. Best wishes Xx

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sarah1986 · 26/10/2007 12:51

Thanks for that hun! Just had the two wounds re-dressed but the nurse wants me go see the doctor this afternoon because im running a high temperatue but my teeth are chattering im so cold! Nightmare but its prob nothing! The drugs they sent me home with are great, just spaced out on sofa, like im stoned or sumink,lol!!! How long ago did u have ur lap and dye? Did it show up anything? x x x

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loubers · 26/10/2007 14:13

I had a lap & dye yesterday and feeling abit sore. Was really sick after the op but ok now. I already have 2 children and the lap & dye didn't show up anything unusual so don't know why I am not getting pregnant. Hope eveyone has some good luck soon.

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sarah1986 · 26/10/2007 15:13

Aw loubers im feelin ur pain!
U never know it cud have just cleared our tubes with any luck, good luck hun! xxx

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TREBUCHET · 26/10/2007 15:57

Hello, I'm pleased to say that I had a L&d January 2006 and 3 wks later I was preggers. Had my lovley son and I truly beleive it was due to that procedure. Not nice, but worth it x x

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sarah1986 · 26/10/2007 22:46

Wow Trebuchet! Thats amazing! Heard alot of people say that so im just keeping my fingers crossed! It does make sense as it clears your tubes! x x x

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TREBUCHET · 27/10/2007 09:35

Thats what I think happened coz they didn't actually find anything but I think the blasting through of the dye shifed something. x

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sarah1986 · 27/10/2007 14:30

Hey im so sorry if this is too much info, but i stopped bleeding the night of the lap and dye, then the next nyt(Friday) we had sex, totally not painful everything fine but now ive been bleeding - not much at all but its worrying me! Do you think having sex just bought eveything down hill?! x x x

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loubers · 27/10/2007 19:00

I admire you for wanting to have sex so soon after! I didn't bleed very much at all, but AF is due, so not sure what my body is doing! I am sure there is nothing for you to worry about, perhaps ring your GP if you are still worried by Monday.

DracuRAH · 28/10/2007 19:24

Hi Sarah

I had my lap and dye 1 1/2 years ago. It showed up nothing.

No advice on the sex part, as we did not have sex afterwards and then found out I was pregnant. As we had been trying for a 18 months it was a welcome break

Sure the bleed is nothing, but like loubers said if your still worried by Monday give your GP a quick call or maybe the hospital unit where your consultant is based and ask to speak to a nurse??? As the clinic we attend is separate from the main hospital they have their own reception and telephone numbers, Do you have this facility?

Hope your OK XX

buttercupbabe · 28/10/2007 19:38

Hi I've been watching this thread as I might need to have a lap and dye as I've been trying for dc2 for a year and so far no luck. Currently seeing a private consultant for suspected short luteal phase - although this is now looking unlikely. My consultant keeps mentioning having my tubes looked at but I think it's going to be really pricey privately. Can anyone tell me how long they had to wait on the nhs and how they got on the waiting list for the op? Thanks

TREBUCHET · 28/10/2007 20:08

Hi Buttercup, I asked my gp to refer me and made sure that he did so to a specific consultant. Here in the Midlands if they just refer you generally it adds another few months to your wait while they very slowly allocate you a doc. Maybe its different elsewhere but worth knowing. I waited about 5 months in the end. In the meantime a changed my diet drastically. If you've got pcos apparantly a low carb diet can balence out your hormones etc, but that may not apply x Good luck

DracuRAH · 28/10/2007 21:09

Hi buttercupbabe, I waited about 6 months. I was referred to my local Fertility unit and saw the consultant there. I had all the normal tests over a period of about 3 months and then he booked me in for a lap and dye which took about another 3 months. Hope you get to see someone soon, best wishes Xx

buttercupbabe · 29/10/2007 12:39

Thanks. I've just found out that our private health care cover will cover it. So back to see the consultant and try to book it. Feeling a bit worried as he keeps mentioning tubes sticking after c-sections. Hope it's not the case....

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sarah1986 · 29/10/2007 19:04

Hi DracuRAH, Im fine now thanks - Just want to get back to the gym!Not sure how long i should wait tho as tum tum`s still bit sore?!
Thats great u three yes THREE girls announced they were preganant the day I left wok before the L&D! it was so upsetting cuz i love them to bits there my mates but was so jealous-spesh as 1 was an accident, one had been trying for 3mnts and the other fell in the 1st month they tried! Ah well its been 2yrs now-the odds have got too go up each month surely?! R U ttc again now then hun? x x x

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sarah1986 · 29/10/2007 19:10

Hey buttercup, just read what all the other girlees have wrote and I feel really lucky! I was refered to a speacialist from Doc - Saw speac within a couple of weeks who on 1st visit thoought he was going to do a laproscopy but when i met him and we talked he decided it wud b best2go ahead wiv the lap and dye-this was then booked for less than 3weeks later.I live on the isle of wight so perhaps weve just got short waiting lists?! Anyway i stongly reccomend it, they can hav a gd look around n find anthing that cud b wrong-and it doesnt even hurt that much n im the BIGGEST wimp ever! x x x

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buttercupbabe · 29/10/2007 20:38

Anniemac - I'm now on 13th day of luteal phase! Had some spotting on sat and thought it was going wrong like my 1st month of hcg but no spotting since. So even if af does arrive it has cerainly worked in lengthening my LP this time. Great news about the accupuncture, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
I'm still going to seriously think about a lap and dye though as my consultant has said from day 1 that after a c-section tubes can get sticky.
Good luck to all you girls who have recently gone through the lap and dye, and I'll most probably be back soon to get some more advice on the procedure.