TTC - Thread 2- a lucky one!

[Blossom428]

Hi guys....
Thought I'd set up this new thread for us.
Tag anyone else from the group I've not got.

@AnxiousAnnie86
@Spinksy9 (thought I'd tag for you to check in with us after your BFP 😆)
@Chlo2701

@WaitingForEgg I'm not sure how accurate they seem to get it right for me, this month I used it alongside the ava and when ava said I was going into fertile window it matched with the smiley on clear blue advanced,

The soy iso, I take 150,150,150,200,200 on cycle days 3-7 but I'm going to take 2-6 this month xx

Morning ladies,

How are we all doing? I've had an absolutely manic week at work so only just had a chance to catch up!

Still no AF @TheOrangeMonster and @Mamainmaking1 🤞🏼?

So glad you're finally in the 2WW @AnxiousAnnie86 !

Sorry your AF is making you feel like crap @Blossom428 ! How long until your campervan trip?

@Chlo2701 when would your AF usually be due?

@WaitingForEgg I'm not sure how accurate it is to be honest - when I was using it I often went from a blank straight to a static and it was pretty much always around CD 12-14, but now I'm temping and using cheap OPKs I seem to be ovulating CD 18-20?! So I'm not really sure which is right...although of course as @AnxiousAnnie86 was saying it could actually be that I'm getting so stressed about ttc my ovulation date is getting later 😤!

I have a bit of a dilemma this month ladies - we were due to go to a nice hotel for DPs birthday but lockdown ruined it! They've reopened now so I rebooked it for a couple of weeks time...and based on my usual dates I'd either know I was out that cycle or we'd have something else to celebrate! But if I ovulate so late again this month I'll be smack bang in the middle of the 2WW. I really want to be able to let my hair down with him for a couple of days, as I feel like I've turned into a right old boring nag ttc but I haven't drunk in the 2WW the whole time we've been trying. What would you do?!

How are you getting on @TheOrangeMonster any sign of AF?
Will you test again today?

Hi @Gemster19
Campervanning starts Monday! Can't wait just for a break and relax!!

I see your dilemma- it is a tricky one, but some people say do what you want untill you get a BFP, and a lot of people do drink initially because they don't realise they are pregnant- my friend was wankered and her little boy is perfect. But obviously it is all down to how you feel and what you want to do.
It may just be a good time to like you say let your hair down and enjoy some you and OH time!

@Gemster19 I don't think it will effect too much to be honest! Might even relax you and do you good!!! I'm going for dinner tonight with my sister and we will no doubt share a bottle of wine! Just relax that weekend and let your hair down! They say when you stop trying Is when you get pregnant!!! It might help! 🤣

@Gemster19 @Blossom428 I haven't drunk since I started TTC and I don't miss it any more - I read so much about how seriously it can affect fertility in some cases and didn't want to take any chances (but that's just me). Over the time we have found some seriously good alcohol free alternatives. Peroni Libera is actually really nice and you can drink it whenever you want, even at breakfast!
Still no AF.....I'm confused!

@AnxiousAnnie86 temp is 36.48. That's a high post ovulation temp for me.

@Gemster19 @AnxiousAnnie86 @TheOrangeMonster @Chlo2701 still no AF for me either (it's only due today - but I usually spot two days before but nothing this month) however another negitive frer this morning. I did fall asleep yesterday during the day though which is so so unusual for me and happened last month when I got a bfp. I had some vvv slight blood tinged cm late last night and just thought it was af arriving but then today no sign of it again. Get a bit of a funny feeling every now and again but nothing the same as last month when I got a BFP. I started procieve pre Natal's this month so I am unsure if that or the chemical last month is playing havoc with my cycle. I am 11dpo now. @TheOrangeMonster how are you feeling today? How are you @AnxiousAnnie86 @Chlo2701

@Gemster19 I think it completely depends on what you feel comfortable doing- I was in similar position a few weeks ago and I decided not to drink just because I didn't want to give myself any reason to beat myself up but I know so so many people that drink for weeks before they even realised they are pregnant and it caused no harm at all. You deserve to continue living life too

@Mamainmaking1 I'm feeling a little better actually having seen that my temp is definitely a post-O one. So I know I'm in my luteal phase somewhere!
Last night my other nipple joined the sore party with is a little unusual but not unprecedented: other than that I feel ok, no obvious flashing lights indicating pregnancy, but actually nothing too serious in the PMS department either except the acne which I finally beginning to clear up after I assaulted it with every anti-blemish product I had!

A break sounds so good right now @Blossom428 - have a great time!

Thanks for all the advice ladies. @TheOrangeMonster I can count on one hand the times I've drunk in the last 15 months (😩) and I don't miss it either. Thing is I'm not very good at being kind to myself - I know if I drink and then I don't get pregnant this cycle I'll blame myself, and if I don't drink and I don't get pregnant I'll beat myself up for being boring for no reason...yet again! I know it's a minor inconvenience on the grand scale of things, and there's really nothing I wouldn't give for us to get our little miracle, but I'm just feeling a bit resentful about being so good and so controlled about everything for such a long time and still not having anything to show for it. You're totally right @AnxiousAnnie86 @Mamainmaking1 I really just want to have fun and be myself without worrying about it all for one weekend! I'm really hoping I ovulate earlier again this month and then I'll be out of the 2WW either way by the time we go 🤞🏼.

@TheOrangeMonster I didn't realise you were temping - how many days has your temp been up for? I read something last week that says 18 days of temp above cover line is a very very likely indication of a BFP.

Glad AF is staying away for now @Mamainmaking1 🤞🏼. How are you finding the Proceive? I've had the Proceive Max for us both in my online shopping basket for weeks as they have such good reviews but they're so expensive and I know my DP will have to be nagged to death to take them!

@Gemster19 you sound like me. End of the day will you kick yourself more if you are pregnant and drink or if you aren't pregnant and don't drink? That is what it would come down to for you. If your not abig drinker maybe just let your hair down in other ways, food you wouldn't eat during ttw etc and enjoy yourself that way. Or have a few glasses of wine and leave it at that. It's so hard isn't it it's just all consuming!!

I just went with the capsules for me because I couldn't drink the max drink apparently it is horrible. I will move onto it though if I have no luck with this one. But something has lengthened my cycles this month anyway as I am usually in full AF from yesterday and spotting two days before that. Tiny bits of spotting last night but still not getting the feeling of AF so god knows when it will finally turn up. So that could be the procieve kicking in to lengthen my cycle? I usually have 22 day cycles and I'm now at 24. That or the chemical last month 🙈 I've come to the concussions I am not pregnant as I have zero symtoms and another bfn again this morning and I would be 12dpo by now. I upped my own thyroid medication this month as I was convinced it bring low caused my chemical last month and I think I upped it too much,combined with the asprin I started to take to try and prevent another chemical and ended up feeling dreadful yesterday. So defo next month I am just sticking to prenatal and thyroid dose back to normal again lol.

@Gemster19 I really think the drinking thing is down to you - There are loads of people who've drunk in the cycle they've conceived and their kid has turned out fine. I just like to control EVERYTHING. 🤪 (call me obsessive) so that's why I don't.

So re temping, I've been doing it for months, and using OvuSense for the last 6, but this cycle I got super stressed when my temp wasn't going up when I expected it to so I stopped tracking everything and that helped to relax me a lot. I only started doing it again from Friday night at @AnxiousAnnie86's suggestion to find out if I was in my luteal phase.
This morning it was 36.46 which is another upper-end post-O temp for me.

My conundrum is as follows:

• Since my PCOS diagnosis October 2019 I've been really keeping tabs on my cycles so I can say that about 30% of the time, my boob gets sore a week before AF, about 60% of the time it starts 4dpo and about 10% of the time it starts at 1dpo.
• I don't know when I ovulated because of the two week gap in temping, but it was at some point between Weds 12th Aug (day after I stopped temping) and Thurs 20th Aug (day before my boob got sore).
• LP always 13 days without fail.
• BFN on Friday evening just gone but still no AF so unlikely to have ovulated until after Fri 14th.
• This puts me between 15dpo and 10dpo today.

What do you think I should do?

@Mamainmaking1 sorry about your BFN and spotting 🙁 are you feeling ok? Start of a new cycle is always start of a new opportunity and at least you'll have got the one after the chemical out of the way, perhaps your body is resetting?

Sorry @Mamainmaking1 I meant when the new cycle does start...mangling my words.

Think I’ve figured out why I didn’t get ovulation on clear blue this month, looks like AF is coming, so I must have ovulated much earlier than I tested 🙈 26 day cycle if af comes today, last month was 35... Eugh!

@TheOrangeMonster yes I'm feeling fine, I knew I wasn't pregnant this month as I had none of the symptoms I had last month but I suppose I still held on to a glimmer of hope (and pointlessly wasted 4 frers 🙈). I still feel sad that last month's pregnancy didn't work out but I am feeling hopeful for next month especially given the fact my cycle has went from 22 days with another 2 days spotting prior to now 24 days so suppose that's a positive. How are you feeling?

@WaitingForEgg sorry to hear that your cycle got muddled up this month - I buy the easy at home OPKs and thwre is something like 40 OPKs and 20 HCG tests in a box for £13 approx. I use them every day from about day 7 or 8 as they are so cheap. I also use the premom app that tells you your reading so maybe that would be a cheaper way of keeping track very unpredictable cycles. I am cycle day 1 today too - we might be in the tww together this month :)

@Mamainmaking1 I'm doing ok, there's still hope for this cycle and I'm feeling a bit more positive about it all again, it's been a long old cycle however it ends though, which is always frustrating- I feel like everyone else gets twice the number of tries I do but totally understand that we all have our own struggles!

Just keeping my fingers, toes and eyes crossed that AF stays away - I'm not getting any rumblings at the moment so that's a good sign.

My stomach's been a little sensitive today and my nipples are sore (after that weird day where it all went away).

I spoke to my Mum today, she said when she had me it took her about 12 months to conceive with her equally messed up cycles and when she got her BfP she felt totally normal and didn't notice until two months after! 🤣 It's given me a bit of a lift to hear that!

@Mamainmaking1 it is totally all consuming, there is always something we should or shouldn't be doing, no wonder we can't relax when people say 'Oh just let it happen!'. It's great news your cycle has got longer this month, a bit of extra time for your egg to mature at the start and for implantation at the end 🤞🏼.

Glad you're feeling more positive now @TheOrangeMonster . Do you think you could hold out until Tuesday to test? That way you will be at least 13DPO, and if you're actually 18DPO by then a BFP should almost definitely show.

Sorry posted too soon!

@WaitingForEgg sorry it seems AF is on her way - at least 26 is a more manageable cycle length. I use cheap OPKs too and the femometer app to read them, clear blue annoyed me that I often went from blank straight to static!

@Gemster19 I think I'm actually going to hold out until Friday if no AF. She hasn't arrived this morning and temp is 36.40 so we're still up there (though I hope it's not a downward trend).
I just don't think I can cope with looking at a BFN after all this so I'll leave it until it really is quite suspicious!

Ugh, so sorry about AF - but 26 is much better than 22 so that really is a victory for you this cycle!
I'll do you a deal - I'll lend you some of my cycle days (I'm on cd 46 now)! 😩🤪

Sorry, @WaitingForEgg forgot to tag you in the second paragraph 🤦🏽‍♀️

Hey ladies sorry just catching up, @TheOrangeMonster amazing news Af still being away! It's such a pain not knowing when uou ovulated, I know stopping tracking things for most people is a good thing and makes it less stressful, but for us maybe temping alone is a good idea, just so you know where you are? My cycle will be 40 days this time, it does feel like everyone gets more chances you are spot on there.

@WaitingForEgg that's so annoying to of missed ovulation!!! Maybe start testing earlier on cheapies just in case?! I start testing around day 11 even though I would never ever ovulate that early! X

@Mamainmaking1 I'm sorry Af has come for you! I think it is slightly easier if you don't get hopes up! Hopefully next month for you! I'd say it's a good idea on Meds, never know what will make it worse!!!

I'm 4dpo today, seems to be going fairly quick this time, no symptoms obvs..... I'm going for reflexology later! Has anyone tried it? Xxx

Hey ladies, I've been quiet as didn't want to think about the TWW this time. But this morning it's not looking good😣 I'm usually a 28day cycle girl & last month I only went 23days, then today I'm CD24 7/8DPO & my CM this morning was creamy with a slightly brown tinge, so looks like AF is going to start today😩 not good when I only ovulated CD 16/17. Just so deflated with this all now. I'm so worried I'm getting peri menopausal at 35, as my mum started menopause at 40😔 & I know if cycles start getting shorter it's not a good sign! oh well I'm just going to throw myself into housework today! X

@Chlo2701 have you any other symptoms of Af? As implantation would be about now and you can get brown Cm? X

@AnxiousAnnie86 it's not implantation I wouldn't be that lucky. I've not had it with previous pregnancies, only my first ever pregnancy & that was 15yrs ago. & most common implantation happens at 9DPO & I've not got that far😣 I keep getting sharp twinges on my left side this morning but that's my only AF symptom. My RHR has stayed high but I've read that can happen & drop the next day, so I can't even go by that. Think I need to go to the docs if my next cycle is going to be short again 🙄 x

@AnxiousAnnie86