Clever Childbirth people, this way please.

[kkdmom]

I have SPD in the lower hips at the back. The hip sockets are the focus of discomfort.

See I want a water birth because I have read somewhere or here that water will support my dodgy hips as well as offer pain relief.

The other half of my 'problem' is that i have some stuck in the mud midwives who don't want to leave their comfort zone so I am fighting to have my birth choice. I can only see my SPD being someone's tack (either MW or consultant) to put me off a WB which ain't happening.

Can someone give me more info? I am under consultant care due acute pre-eclampsia with dd1.

I am shit scared of going back to hospital as I feel like as the last time, i will end up being treated like a piece of meat or have my labour prolonged due to stress, worry and lack of trust as I can't see things going well there the second time around.

I have loads of baggage with my first hospital experience.

i had s.p.d with my last3dc and was also told waterbirth was a no go area

was advised to give birth on my left hand side i wouldnt advise a home birth

Have you thought of getting a doula to help you through the birth? Lulumama is one. I know a charity that sends doulas out to support women during their labour to support them and make sure they are heard as much as possible, this charity will help in a means tested way. I can get back to you tomorrow with their comtact details if no one else can help.

how many weeks are you?

Heck starlight, I am determined to have a home birth but preferably as a water birth.

The last thing i want is a midwife telling me to get into a farking bed to make her life easy.

I want to walk around, squat, get on MN, lean over the bannister/tub wherever, go to my kitchen and help myself.

With the SPD I am scared that in hospital I will some MW who doesn't respect my SPD and ends up making life totally shit for me.

I want to know who will be there before hand. It is such a lottery who we will get in hosp.

dragonbaby, did they give you any medical reasons why a HB was incompatible with SPD?

I asked an NCT contact and she said that there are no Doulas in my area. Tyne and Wear, Co Durham, Teesside.

I couldn't find one on the Doula website either.

so if anyone knows different, please speak up.

no i didnt ask as my friend had the same 12mths before and her pelvis seperated completly so i didi what they said no squatting as that puts more pressure on your pelvis

sorry didn't read your whole post through the first time avenanap, yes, please give me the details.

they may not be able to find me one up here but you know. [got fingers crossed]

I read on another thread from lulumama i think that if my trust cannot/will not support my water/homebirth then i can insist on them hiring and paying for an independent mw for me.

STarlight, i am looking for evidence based stuff as well as personal experience stories. anything that can inform me so i can throw info back at any refusers.

see DB, my SPD is not at the front like the normal type. it is in my hip sockets, so to speak. So what may be protocol for one spd patient may not be the same for all.

i just don't want anyone chucking out my baby with the bathwater when their main reason is that they can't be arsed to leave their comfort zone and inform themselves properly in order to deal with me.

kkdmom - not sure if this is much help - I didn't have SPD prior to giving birth (have had lots of pain there afterwards due to bf'ing lyng down but hey ho) but have unstable pelvis which causes lots of low back/hip/sciatic problems.

I found giving birth on my left hand side worked quite well - I was left alone though (induced birth, wasn't sufficiently dilated, left for 4hours to see how i progressed, gave birth after 2).
Prior to this I had said I wanted to be allowed to be on my feet as much as poss - some fecking chance! For the last 4 hours I had to be wheelchaired to the loo, couldn't stand up at all! BUT I did get to avoid my main issue, which was to be on my back. I did not want to be on my back and I wasn't except for the last push. LHS = good if you have to lie down.

HTH a bit.

ask to speak directly to your consultent as tell him how you feel reguards homebirth/waterbirth and how you feel that come the time they wont listen and they may be able to comprmise

at the end of the day YOUneed to be happy and they have to try to get you there

Do you not think that a water birth, although you have the water supporting you, isn't the best way of giving birth because of your SPD? For one, you may have to squat big style for a long time. I now you want to be as active as you can, there's nothing wrong with this however, you need to listen to what your body is telling you. It's not coping well (hence the SPD). A water birth may support your hips but it will do you no good having to squat. I now this birth doesnt appear to be heading the way that you want it to and that must be really dificult for you but sometimes it's best to just go with the flow. Don't push yourself too much. I'll find you the number for the Doula and I'll get back to you tomorrow.

i have to agree after have two"normal deliverys" i was scared that things wernt going how they were ment to go but i still got my dd and went and got pregnant again and again

thanks for sharing that thumbwitch. It seems to have jogged my memory that being in water earlier in labour, because i would be near weightless, gets around the debilitating effects of SPD. I know I don't know yet how bad it will get.

I am 28wks plus at the moment. btw which someone asked before. sorry.

I had an induction from hell the last time round. It was so bad that I know i will go for a c/s if I were offered an induction again.

I went through labour largely unconscious and the only memory I have of it is hearing myself screaming in utter panic when the pain contractions broke my stupor. I could see nothing and could not respond to anyone. All i saw was blackness and had no awareness of where I was. I can only imagine it was akin to the patchy memory of date rape using rohypnol.

It sounds wierd but the only explanation I have is that I have read that one of the contraindications of methyldopa (for the pre-ec) is drowsiness plus the midwife gave me codeine and paracetamol as pain relief the first time I rang and codeine knocks me out cold for hours.

I have only had codeine once before and I knew it was a side effect. She didn't tell me she was offering me codeine.

will join starlight. i didn't know about that group before.

surely you don't have to squat for hrs though? [completely ignorant at the moment, me]

you can squat for a short time and shift position? i was only using squat as an example earlier btw, not what will necessarily happen.

that is another form of 'squatting' in my weird mind Starlight.