Refuse 5am feed to 8 week old? Aibu?

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Just that really, he has reflux so is quite a sicky baby but is on ranitidine and gaviscon to help. He spits up after most feeds but after his 5am feed he projectile vomits for about an hour. He's not in any pain. We've had him checked for pyloric stenosis and all is well. He's gaining weight perfectly along the 50th centile. I've got a feeling he doesn't need this feed and is still full from his 2/3am feed? Would I be evil to start refusing this feed and making him wait until 7am? I'm still feeding on demand but he fell into a rough routine of 3 hourly in the day then 12, 2/3, 5am

You can't refuse a feed for an 8 week old! They don't understand negotiation!

@MummyLikesCrisps I mean just sort of give him a dummy and distract him as much as possible. I don't want to keep feeding him for him to vomit everywhere day in day out. It seems pointless?? Hes covered himself and my bedsheets completely this morning again. Lying in the spare bed now waiting for him to destroy these too

He will throw up so much and then not look for food after, so it just seems like the 5am feed is him over eating? He deffo doesn't keep any of it down. I don't know how he manages to throw up so much

Never restrict an infants feeding unless specifically told to by a medical expert appalling ideas!

If your baby is hungry then you need to feed him! You sound inconvenienced which is totally the wrong attitude.

My health visitor had suggested making sure he really needs that feed and that I'm not misreading hunger cues. He acts hungry but will settle for just his dummy. But I end up panicking he's hungry and feeding him anyway. We're just not getting anywhere.

More distressed watching an 8 week old projectile vomit for over an hour. I'm not talking spit up it shoots out of him and it can't be pleasant. But thanks for making it personal

Does holding him upright after the feed help it stay down?

It's probably worth a try with the dummy. The only other thing I can think of is to sit in the bathroom and feed to avoid too much mess

Usually @MindyStClaire we hold him upright for half hour after every feed day and night, this reduced his amount of sickness for every feed bar the 5am one. We starts projectile vomiting whilst we hold him up and doesn't stop until what looks like the whole feed is gone

Like everyone says you can’t restrict feeding buy reading your last post I think you know that, and that’s not want you mean. Go by what your health visitor says - you’re posting on here because you’re doubting yourself x

If he falls back asleep with the dummy then try it. If he's genuinely hungry then I'm pretty sure he will let you know. It's worth a try.

He finished throwing up about 15 minutes ago, so almost 2 hours of vomiting and he's fallen asleep looking quite content and doesn't seem hungry. Im obviously not saying should I deprive a starving child of food but more do I test the water of if he's actually hungry or if I'm misreading cues. I don't really want him to go through this every morning it's distressing for us both?

Thanks @Soosiesue and @gumbucket I definitely didn't mean it in the way some posters have taken it.

If he’s projectile vomiting for over an hour surely he needs to be seen by a paediatrician? He must be dehydrated.

Could you try a small feed and then a dummy? Dd3 was also a massive puker and giving her the slower boob first, trying to wait a bit before giving her the faster boob sometimes helped. For her, the longer between feeds the more violent the vomit, especially if I went faster boob first!

He’s on medication but still vomiting? Have you ruled out cows milk intolerance???

You'll probably find he screams and is more sick from that. It's just a reality of reflux I'm afraid. Seems worse at some feeds than a others. If he's waking for the feed he needs it but by all means see if he goes back to sleep with a dummy but I'd not go to any further lengths.

DD never had a dummy so I might be wrong but I don't think she could've been distracted from a feed. So if he'll take the dummy happily and you don't have a couple of hours crying, maybe it's worth a try especially if your HV has suggested it. Maybe bring the next feed up a bit. Usual caveats about plenty of wet and dirty nappies etc. Definitely don't leave him crying for a feed but I don't think that's what you mean anyway.

Reflux is hell OP, hope he gets over the worst of it quickly.

Two hours of projectile vomiting?! You need to see a doctor. I don’t think this is something mumsnet can solve.

@BertrandRussell He has been. He's been checked for pyloric stenosis at 4 weeks and 7 weeks. It's just this one feed that's the problem. Wet and dirty nappies are fine. The last suggestion was to make sure we give him a gaviscon before this feed as he can only have 6 sachets a day and not at every feed. We've started doing that and it hasn't helped

Have you tried reflux milk. It was brilliant for my ds. If he is really hungry he will not settle for the dummy so worth trying that first, but feeding if he clearly can't settle with it

Two hours of projectile vomiting?! You need to see a doctor. I don’t think this is something mumsnet can solve.

The very first post states that the baby is on prescription medication and has been checked for pyloric stenosis.

We're seeing a paediatrician at 3 weekly clinics due to the severity of his reflux. It's mainly under control now he's been on medication a while it's just this one feed as I've stated. He's ebf so I've not tried any comfort milks. I asked paediatrician whether I should cut out dairy and they said there's no suggestions of it being cmpa

I think you've had a harsh reaction to your earlier post. It's not as though you're advocating leaving him for half a day without food! I think if he'll settle for the dummy, you're right that he's not hungry just then so it could be that he's overeating. Give it a go and see if it helps.