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So when your baby starts standing in the cot, what's the procedure for making them lay done - am up 10x a night and it's HELL I say HELL

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:22

ds2 is 8 mths and can now stand in his cot, so he does it all day and all night.
I usually feed him back to sleep (he is bf) and that sorts that but have made rod for own back big style and he is now up multiple times
Coupled with seriously unwell dd (5), who needs me more atm, how the hell do I get him to lay down quickly?
Any top tips or is it simply tying him down with a sheet?

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expatinscotland · 07/12/2007 20:24

is he in a grow bag?

he might find it harder if he's in a grow bag.

does he cry and shriek when he's standing up?

any pick up and put down experts out there?

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:25

oh yes he is in a gro bag
smart little fecker
he cries and shrieks and yahoos and eventually screams ma ma ma ma ma
was cute the first night...

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expatinscotland · 07/12/2007 20:26

Hmm.

I never had this with either of mine, but they were put down to sleep with no feed from teh get go.

Bumping for any pick up, put down veterans out there.

whomovedmychocolate · 07/12/2007 20:28

Ha! You wait till he discovers how to cock his leg over the side and jump OUT of the cot (as my DD did at 11 months!)

Seriously, I just sit there calmly saying 'settle down, lie down' until she gets bored. I take a book and read. Grobags don't help at all IME.

I did find putting a nightlight at ground level gave her something to look at though so she wasn't standing up to see what interesting things were going on in the room.

Be dull, very dull. It sometimes helps.

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:29

I never had it before either as ds1 co slept and dd was unable to due to her SN.
I guess it is replace him and walk away. multiple times
Hmmmmm just cannot do that atm as the noise will disturb dd and she is so so sick

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WhenScoobyGotStuckUpTheChimney · 07/12/2007 20:29

No advice but know the feeling my dd is 22 months & still gets up through the night, standing in her cot should Muuuuuuum, Muuuum there screaming, crying she drove me mad last night & is very adament & never gives in just gets louder.

It may be that you are going to have to just walk in, lay him down say shh then walk back out, it will be hard at first but he may get the message after a couple of nights, everytime he starts just repeat, don't talk to him though.

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:30

after 31 minutes being the longest sleep last night I am duller than the dullest dull thing...
His cot is small - he is not short... fear for the consequences

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MrsCarrot · 07/12/2007 20:33

I am interested to hear any answers to this. My 10 month old refuses to lie down for ages and the other night he see-sawed himself on the side until he tipped onto our bed. He was very pleased with himself.

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:35

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MrsCarrot · 07/12/2007 20:40

I had to think for a minute as to how that would help then I realised you must have thought I meant the cot tipped over.

It didnt. He was see-sawing himself on the rail for ages until he tipped over. It might have looked funny to someone who had had enough sleep.

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:45

PMSL

might try a folded sheet and securing him somehow - feel bd about that though
he tummy sleeps and thumb sucks and used to be excellent at getting to sleep. He went down ok tonight as he is totally bushwhacked (my plan A)

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whomovedmychocolate · 07/12/2007 20:46

Mrs Carrot, I had bang, bang, bang, thump, hehheheheh as she skidaddled out of the cot onto the floor. Then remembered she couldn't walk and just sat there, laughing at me as I ran in ashen faced and terrified

How come no one makes cotbed lids????

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:50

I see a huge GAP in the market
let's get it patented
nearly wet my knickers laughing then

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 20:50

was so cross last night, I bad temperedly (and not at all truthfully) threatened electrified razorwire

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PuppyDogTails · 07/12/2007 20:54

Stairgate (or fire guard indeed) fastened to the top of the cot?

MrsCarrot · 07/12/2007 20:55

Yes, lids would be good. He doesn't do it often thankfully, only when the covers have rucked enough to give him a head start.

He's a real climber though. I keep finding him on the kitchen table.

annoyingdevil · 07/12/2007 20:56

Oops - I just left both of mine to flop back down! I must be a bad mummy

needmorecoffee · 07/12/2007 20:57

matress on floor if he's in his own room and stairgate to stop him escaping. Then ignore him long as room is safe.
He's still little at 8 months and might be hungry/lonely. I co-slept with 3 of mine - dd1 wriggled too much - and got better sleep

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 21:00

Can't co sleep with ds2, he's a whirlwind and just sees it as an opportunity to pul hair and poke eyes.
I don't mind night feeding in the least - well I never minded when it was 11pm 4am 7am
I mind when it's 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7am....
I would happily lay cuddling him but the lad wants to dominate the world
Is he too young for rugby training I wonder

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MrsCarrot · 07/12/2007 21:01

mine spends more of the night in our bed even though he starts off in his cot. He's very good at sliding off feet first and making a dash for the loo brush. Hilarious at 5am.

fizzbuzz · 07/12/2007 21:24

I did pu/pd (or rather lay down) with dd who was a screaming non-sleeping nihtmare for 6 months, and it does definitely work, but you have to stick with it.

When he stands up, go in, lay him down,facing away from you (no eye contact), pat him once and say night night time or something, and leave room. He will scream.

Go back in and repeat, until he stays down and settles and he will. You may have to go in a lot of times. First time we did it with dd, she yelled for 2 hours, but it did improve.

It took 2 weeks to change her behaviour, eg not screaming out, when she stood up, and a further week until she started sleeping properly.

BUT, it worked. Accept that you will have times when he appears to regress, and that it may take longer than the expected 2 weeks (dd is a vey determined young lady) However it may only take a few nights for your ds

HTH BTW, taking her into our bed was not an option, she would get really giddy and behave like it was party time

minouminou · 07/12/2007 21:34

do yu think as well, that knackering him out in the day might help?
ds has been a great sleeper (v few probs), but he always sleeps for longer if he's had a busy day.....swimming, soft room play, off on his walker (maybe in a few weeks for you)... all that kinda stuff
hope it improves....when DS has been having probs, i've felt dreadful, so i hope it's over for you soon

chirpygirl · 07/12/2007 21:37

DD1 went through this, (even though she was in a grobag too!) She was BF to sleep as well but once she hit about 9 or 10 months if I had fed her properly in the previous few hours I knew she was most likely being after attention and comfort more than milk so I did my own version of pick up put down (am too cheap to buy books on it!)
It took about 2 or 3 days/nights but I just went in every time, laid her back down, said night night and walked out again closing the door behind me. No eye contact, no smiling, boring dull tone of voice.
The first night it took 2 hours of going in, closing the door behind me on the way out and having to open it again straightaway (DH made me snacks and I had a book on the landing to keep me going)
By the third night she only took a couple of goes and got the hint.
The good thing about this is a year later at 22 months, if she wakes frightened or upset for whatever reason I only have ot go in and lie her down and she goes straight back to sleep as she knows I am there if she needs me.

chirpygirl · 07/12/2007 21:39

xposts with fizzbuzz but basically what she said!

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Piffle · 07/12/2007 21:42

I so see, but am still feeling arrrghhh about it.

He has been housebound of late due to dd being so very ill, and he himself poorly last week too.
He does get stir crazy and I think he is a good day time sleeper so will lok at tweaking his morning nap.
He loves swimming and his music class, but cannot truthfully say it make a jot of difference to his sleep though
plus he is tething atm and that makes him a bit more easily woken than usual

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