So sick of baby name books; please help: Josie or Celia

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Josie and Ceila are our 2 shortlisted names. Josie would be used but short for Josephine in case it's too babyish when she gets older.

Husband and I have been through so many discussions on names I almost can't face thinking about it anymore and really want your help.

Is Josie at all (sorry for using the word, was quoted at me by my awful brother) chavvy? Or should we ignore my brother and his Aurelia-naming North London baby ways?

Which do you prefer?

Any thought on a middle name to go with either graciously and happily welcomed.

Thank you!

Oooh I ummed and ahhed over Josephine with DD (didn't in the end), I think it is a lovely name and has loads of options for nicknames - Josie, Jo, Joey, Posie. It is lovely. Also on out list was Cecily (similar to Celia) which is also lovely IMO.

our list, not out list

Josie is not chavvy, I have only known a couple of josies and they were both quite posh

Josie.

Both Josephine and Celia are lovely.

Aurelia is nice too

Josephine Viola?

Josie all the way. Josephine is strong and classy and rather fabulous, Josie is a lovely day-to-day name. Celia to my mind is rather limp, although JMO of course.

Thanks for reasssurance on Josie. Ooh Cecily lovely too. Damn it, need to keep list down not add another but thanks!

Aurelia is very nice too Debi and that was a bit inverted snob of me - sorry.

Oooooh they are both really lovely. Hmmm. I think Celia edges it for me, slightly. Gorgeous names .

Josie, actually like the full Josephine better, but Josie nice too.

Do not like Celia at all. It is a horrible middle-aged woman name. Yuck.

Cecily is nice though.

Celia makes me think of that bad girl in the Simon and Garfunkel song

Josie is a very good name indeed

My mum is 86 today and she is and always has been Josie... and she is no chav.

Lots of good role models for a Josephine, too,

Josephine Butler
'Jo' in Little Women

Both names lovely but prefer Josephine of the two as more potential for shortenings

PuppyMonkey I'm sure you have impeccable breeding, happy birthday to your mum (and god knows what an 86 year old chav would be like!).

What middle name could go? I'm afraid Debi I'm not too keen on Viola because of years of enforced music lessons that still make me shudder.

Oh lovely names . I particularly love Celia (I like Aurelia too )

A friend has just had the most gorgeous little Viola so I am obsessed... but I feel your pain.

Wasn't it Cecilia in the Simon and Garfunkel song?

Josephine

Really like Josephine, think nn Josie OK.

my cousin's baby is Josie Michelle. Could go with Marie, Ann, Mae/May, that sort of thing.

Josie

I love both your names, but slightly prefer Josie over Ceila. It has a friendly, feisty sound to it

Josephine Isabel is an excellent combination IMO

Both are lovely names. Not remotely chav.

Tough choice.

great choice.

Josie Ramona

I like Josie, but love Josephine, and I also love Celia.

So no help at all