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GirlWithABrokenSmile · Today 10:46

I’m looking for opinions.

I joined an NCT group before having DS. Four of us became close: G and L were particularly good friends, as were B and I. Our children are now five and started school in September.

They attended preschool together, but over time DS and L’s child stopped playing together. From January, DS repeatedly said nobody played with him and he didn’t want to go. Preschool always assured me he was fine.

In March, G and L’s children hit him during an outdoor game. A teacher intervened. G denied her child would do that; L asked me to tell her if it happened again and grounded her child for a month. Unsurprisingly, that didn’t improve their relationship 😅

In July, DS was offered a place at another school. When I asked preschool’s opinion, his keyworker advised taking it. She said L’s child routinely excluded DS and screamed at other children who tried to play with him, so he was often alone. B’s child would either negotiate him into the game or leave to play with him. When I asked why nobody had intervened, she said DS hadn’t cried, so they’d left them to it.

The following week, I requested a meeting. His keyworker had begun maternity leave, and the room lead said she knew nothing about it. She suggested changing DS’s days to avoid G and L’s children. Management later refunded six months’ fees and acknowledged that the situation hadn’t been properly reported.
A noticed we’d changed days. I warned her that she might prefer not to know because she was also friends with G and L, but she wanted the full story. She wasn’t surprised and said she wouldn’t tell L because L would overreact and preschool would handle anything necessary.

A week later, all three stopped speaking to me. B had told L, who went into preschool. I've been told the room lead then described it as “normal five-year-old behaviour", and told L there was nothing to be concerned about. I apologised to L for not telling her myself, who accepted it, but said she should have heard it from me and she felt our friendship had run its course. B said she’d known telling L might backfire, but felt L deserved to know. Because L told her preschool had denied everything, B felt I had misled her.

I rarely see L. G ignores me at a weekly club. I see B every day at school, and although our children remain close friends, she blanks me. Last week she suggested putting it behind us, then went back to ignoring me the following week 😅

I accept that I should probably have spoken to L, but I was focused on DS. He’d been struggling for months while we had no idea why, and the mum guilt hit hard when I learned what had been happening. My priority was helping him.

Is there anything I can do about this now? I hate the awkwardness.

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BluebellBeth · Today 10:53

Someone grounded their 5 year old for a month?

anyway they sound like a hard of work. just move on and find some normal parent friends.

itsadlibitum · Today 10:57

BluebellBeth · Today 10:53

Someone grounded their 5 year old for a month?

anyway they sound like a hard of work. just move on and find some normal parent friends.

This! 😂

It all sounds insane. They are 5 for goodness sake. Sounds like those friendships have run their course.

id be really annoyed at the preschool though and if you are being completely truthful in your post I’d probably put in a formal complaint.

PoppieCock · Today 10:58

Try to make friends that have nothing to do with your DC.

Honestly, that read like a long saga and I suspect none of you need the stress.

I know this has nothing to do with it but I too was aghast at a 5 year old being grounded for a month!

MajorSamanthaCarter · Today 10:58

How do you ground a five year old?
5 is a tricky age, especially for boys, they're constantly falling out and being dicks.

ToKittyornottoKitty · Today 10:59

Really hard to read all this with the random letters. Who is A? Are they the same as B? Make new friends and move on with your life, what else is there to do really?

Crunchymum · Today 11:02

Yep there seems to be a random person "A" who wasn't there to begin with but they pop up half way through that epic post.

Fuck them all, make new friends.

LauritaEvita · Today 11:10

I see parents who are friends at my kids’ primary school making the mistake of thinking that their kids should be friends too. Unless you live somewhere really small, that all seems far too intense to me, all going from NCT to the same preschool then the same school. Kids form their own gangs- leave them to it.

BillieWiper · Today 11:27

They're tiny children! You really need to stop paying so much attention to the details of their forming 'relationships'. It's part of growing up for them to navigate these things to an extent. The issue with the setting was dealt with but that's not to do with the mums.

You should be friends with adults who you have things in common with other than the fact you happen to live in a specific area and have kids of a certain age. Otherwise yes they are just your kids' friends' parents/random school mums and all you need to be is civil/friendly in passing rather than best pals.

GirlWithABrokenSmile · Today 11:29

Sorry, A and B should have been the same. I tried to make it easier to understand and did the opposite 🫣

Thanks all. We didn’t purposefully try to keep them friends, I know they’ll choose who they like. They seemed to enjoy playing together, and it was nice to have mum friends!

We do live somewhere relatively small, we will bump into each other often. I had hoped the kids might distance themselves a bit naturally at school but instead they seem just as close, they’ve just got more kids in the group now. It doesn’t seem to be affecting them yet, though.

I’ll man up and try to ignore how awkward the whole thing makes me feel.

No idea how you ground a five year old, by the way. Thankfully not something I’ve had to attempt!

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JMSA · Today 11:37

Did you take the place at the other school?

Jimmyjumpy · Today 11:41

Time to move on. If you have nothing in common with these women apart from your children that isnt the basis for friendship. If necessary move your DS to another school.

ColdAsAWitches · Today 11:44

A noticed we’d changed days. I warned her that she might prefer not to know because she was also friends with G and L, but she wanted the full story.

That's a shit warning to be honest. If anyone ever says anything like that, it's clear that there's some big drama and it's guaranteed to make the other person want the details. You should have just said something like "those days suit us better now".

That said, B shouldn't have spoken to anyone else afterwards, particularly after saying they wouldn't, and it's ridiculous that she's ignoring you now. But all three sound drama queens and you're better off ignoring them all too and making new friends.

takealettermsjones · Today 11:55

So my reading of it, if I've followed/understood correctly, is that you were unwise to say anything to B and that B is a shit stirrer. I'm a bit impressed by L's handling of it if I'm honest, and I don't know why G is even in the story 🤣 I'm also hoping you're at the new school now!

Stompythedinosaur · Today 11:59

I wouldn't have said anything to the parents, I think letting the school handle it was the right thing to do.

The part here I'm astonished at is the school not stepping in to manage a dc being excluded and suggesting you changed days rather than managing the situation!

The other women don't sound very nice, really. You're probably better off without them.

GirlWithABrokenSmile · Today 12:00

ColdAsAWitches · Today 11:44

A noticed we’d changed days. I warned her that she might prefer not to know because she was also friends with G and L, but she wanted the full story.

That's a shit warning to be honest. If anyone ever says anything like that, it's clear that there's some big drama and it's guaranteed to make the other person want the details. You should have just said something like "those days suit us better now".

That said, B shouldn't have spoken to anyone else afterwards, particularly after saying they wouldn't, and it's ridiculous that she's ignoring you now. But all three sound drama queens and you're better off ignoring them all too and making new friends.

Yeah I see what you mean. To be honest, my son's keyworker had said she was going to mention it to B, so I figured she'd know anyway, and I was spiralling a bit about my son. She was kinda pressing me for more info and I thought I was giving her a way to put it to bed.

She's the only one who goes to school with us now, so I thought she might have gotten over it...

I don't really see G and L; but I see B daily.

My son would be so sad if we moved schools now. Plus this one is on my road, and the next closest would be a drive away, so I should probably just suck it up. I think I genuinely thought me and B were friends! Maybe it was all just convenience really.

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BillieWiper · Today 12:23

GirlWithABrokenSmile · Today 11:29

Sorry, A and B should have been the same. I tried to make it easier to understand and did the opposite 🫣

Thanks all. We didn’t purposefully try to keep them friends, I know they’ll choose who they like. They seemed to enjoy playing together, and it was nice to have mum friends!

We do live somewhere relatively small, we will bump into each other often. I had hoped the kids might distance themselves a bit naturally at school but instead they seem just as close, they’ve just got more kids in the group now. It doesn’t seem to be affecting them yet, though.

I’ll man up and try to ignore how awkward the whole thing makes me feel.

No idea how you ground a five year old, by the way. Thankfully not something I’ve had to attempt!

I'd say it's fairly easy to ground one seeing as legally and psychologically they're not really supposed to be wandering off and going places on their own anyway. Unless you decide to leave them completely unsupervised when not being grounded?

GirlWithABrokenSmile · Today 12:50

BillieWiper · Today 12:23

I'd say it's fairly easy to ground one seeing as legally and psychologically they're not really supposed to be wandering off and going places on their own anyway. Unless you decide to leave them completely unsupervised when not being grounded?

Well yes, practically. I meant more that it was an unusual punishment at 5, in my opinion.

I think it transpired that she wasn't allowed to the park or any of her activities for the month - swimming, gymnastics etc - but I'm not sure, as I only saw L and her child at the park once a week, and she wasn't there for that month. I think she still met up with G.

Like I said, L's daughter and my son played quite differently, one was quite good at intricate details and big fantasy games and one was more running and climbing and football, so they just didn't really choose to play together that much. There wasn't really any drama, or at least any that I knew of before this!

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Brokentoes85 · Today 14:34

I don't understand. They're 5 and have started school, but you've said preschool and fees, keyworker and lead??

Tootsurly · Today 14:36

It's like Numberwang, but with letters!

GirlWithABrokenSmile · Today 20:51

Brokentoes85 · Today 14:34

I don't understand. They're 5 and have started school, but you've said preschool and fees, keyworker and lead??

This happened before they started school - July, when they were all at preschool together.

I thought it might have blown over by now, but it has not.

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Wibblywobblymum · Today 21:10

It sounds like they’re just spoiling for drama and the outcome would have been similar no matter what you’d done. You’re well away from them - don’t give them any attention or brains pace and focus on building other friendships.

Wildgoat · Today 21:16

Honestly you should just have spoke to the mum herself, it looks like you made uo stuff behind her back, also you don’t say what rh nursery said when you spoke to them about lying to thr other parent,

DrinkFeckArseBrick · Today 21:22

Firstly I think nursery behaved really badly here. You don't let a child be repeatedly excluded from a group because they don't cry
You don't let the bully children get their own way
And you don't tell the victims parents one thing and the other parents another
So I'd put in a complaint even though you don't go there any more

I agree you didn't handle it that well as you didn't tell anyone before hand and told a mutual friend rather than the parent of the bully so of course it was going to get back to her. However you've acknowledged this and like you said, you had other things on your mind. Although the one that spilled the beans because she thought the bully mum deserved to know could have a. Minded her own business, what did it have to do with her, ahe didnt have to push you for an answer or pass it on or b. Told you that bully mum deserved to know and given you the chance to tell her. So I think she was a bit shady about it and not sure I'd be that keen to be friends again.

It is a bit awkward but actually you haven't done anything to deserve being frozen out, all you did was put your son first and then tell your friend the truth about a question she was pushing you to answer. She pushed you to give info you didn't want to share, she passed that info on, she chose not to believe you, she is making it awkward. So I'd hold my head up high, be friendly (at least infront of her kid) for the sake of your children, and invite her to stuff

HappyViewer · Today 21:29

Just ignore them and when you make new friends remember it’s nothing to do with who your DC plays with.

42goingon14 · Today 21:33

BluebellBeth · Today 10:53

Someone grounded their 5 year old for a month?

anyway they sound like a hard of work. just move on and find some normal parent friends.

😅 I had to re-read to check we hadn’t skipped on 10 years and they are now all teenagers!

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