Paris Protests - Should UK follow suit?

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I am following the coverage of the Paris education protests with interest. A lot of the triggers are failures the UK education system are making too (or at least GB, Im not so sure on N.Ire).

AIBU to think if the Paris Protests are successful, the UK should follow suit?

Our children deserve so much better!

I can’t see what rioting is going to do. The funding isn’t there. France is teetering on the verge of economic collapse due to overspending and were not far behind. You cannot spend money you don’t have.

Causing damage and injury and necessitating the spending of many millions to police it and then rectify the damage?

Yeah... NO.

Good old French, they do love a riot.

Our schools aren’t perfect but they’re not so bad they’re worth violence and destruction. I was surprised when I read what’s going on in French schools.

Are you mad?

Oh bog off, bad actor

I doubt it. Unless the pensioners ard going to revolt against the aboloshing of the triple lock.

From reading about the protests it sounds like the French education system is in a considerably worse state than ours.

Also, as pp says above, rioting will just cost more money and will not magically create the money needed to improve things.

So overall - no.

Surely by causing the damage and requiring such a massive amount of public resources to be ploughed into policing them etc they are taking even more money away that could be used to improve their situation?

For students, I don’t think they are very bright

No. I assume your canvassing responses for the media.

No

It wont change anything. Cost a fortune in policing, lost work revenue, damage kids education.

Abosultely terrible idea

And when there is even less money in the public purse to spend on your children’s education because it has to be spent on riot control, fixing damage etc?

Also nothing says caring parent like being seen screaming at the police like a maniac.

Oh yes I think we should definitely do that. You go first

What is so wrong with schools in your opinion, op that necessitates rioting and burning them down?

The facilities of one of the very modern looking french schools affected were listed and sounded amazing.

This.

Everyone acts like we are still very wealthy and can spend whatever we like ‘if the will is there’

We can’t. We are absolutely heading for economic ruin as it is.

@blinkblinkblinkblink , people have received prison sentences for promoting illegal, violent actions online.

Stop trying to stir up trouble, OP.

Riots are not going to help children succeed.

Don’t be ridiculous.

Can I check please OP?
You wish to encourage rioting, violence and the destruction of property, with concomitant risks to themselves, by children? Blown off hand anyone?

YABVU - and to be honest YAB a bit of a dick.

I would love more money to be ploughed into our education system as there are a number of issues with it currently……however, none of these issues are going to be solved by rioting. And our government aren’t going to set the precedent of rewarding rioters, nor should they. You give in to one group, the next thing you know ten other groups have popped up rioting and demanding change.

It sounds like some of the problems in French schools are due to inequality of funding with particularly poor funding in poorer areas. I'm not saying that English school funding is ok (and I don't know about the rest of the uk), but there are funding mechanisms to address some of this - things like pupil premium and fairer funding formulas.

Burning schools and attacking teachers is not going to solve our education crisis

YABVU

How is damaging buildings and spending millions on policing riots a sensible suggestion?

Beggars belief.

I don’t think that anyone or anything that encourages rioting and attacking the police should be encouraged

What we witnessed in the last few days is a left wing takeover with all the usual suspects ie the usually pro Palestinian flags / free is it Alia? flags which are zero to do with education and everything to do with the far left stoking up division.

Historically we have never followed France properly into revolution and frankly it has never helped them - simply leading to anarchy.

Protests...not riots.

The majority are protesting, not rioting. As with anything though, there's always a few bad eggs.

Whats so wrong with schools that I think it is worth watching what happens in France to see if it would be worth replicating in the UK? I have recently left teaching after nearly 20 years. As have thousands upon thousands of teachers. The education system is not fit for purpose. It is purely run on the goodwill of the staff, and the staff are burnt out and haven't got anymore left to give.

The government aren't listening. Instead they are putting even more demands on a service that is already in crisis (e.g. SEND reforms).

The education system cannot carry on as it is. There's not even enough money for essentials like paper and pencils to last the full school year.

Do you really think its not worth demanding better?

Article 28 and 29 of the UNCRC state the right of a child to an education - which is not being adequately fulfilled, especially in regards to children with SEND.

Schools are very good at covering up the failures e.g. buying stationary out of their own wages or covering classes with unqualified cover supervisors (fine for odd lessons - not fine for a term at a time or even for a whole GCSE course which happens).

Surely everyone is aware of the funding crisis in education? The teacher retention crisis? The number of school buildings that regularly have buckets to collect rainfall because of the level of disrepair?

I find it strange how many people seem to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to education.

What might be the best way to combat that... Maybe investing in future generations?