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AIBU? Kid's kicking rotting apples in a field / parent had a right go

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TheZanyPanda · Yesterday 14:34

Took my two boys (DS15 and DS13) out for a walk and a picnic in the Yorkshire Dales over the weekend. It was lovely—other families were around, everyone was relaxing, and we found a nice spot in a field to sit for a bit.

After eating, I wanted to read my book for half an hour while the boys let off some steam. Near the edge of the field, there were a few wild apple trees with a ton of bruised and rotting apples all over the floor.

The lads decided to have a bit of a kick-about with them. They spent about 30 minutes mucking about with the already-fallen/rotting apples, kicking them to each other like a football, and stepping / stomping on some. They were in my sight the entire time, weren't shouting or swearing, and were just genuinely having innocent fun.

Out of nowhere, another parent walked over and had an absolute kick-off at them (and then me). She was furious, claiming they shouldn't be "kicking fruit" or "making a mess."

I stood up for the boys and said they were just letting off steam, weren't being rowdy, and the apples were already on the ground rotting anyway so no harm was done. She wasn't having it at all—told me we were "ruining the area for everyone" and said we "shouldn't come back," before storming off.

It totally ruined the atmosphere and has left a really sour taste in my mouth. They're teenage boys having a bit of fun and letting off steam with mushy apples in a field, not vandalism!

Am I Being Unreasonable to think she completely overreacted and was way out of line? Or should I have stopped them?

YBU - They were making a mess and ruining the area, leave the fruit alone. YANBU - Harmless fun with rotting apples, the other parent needs to get a grip!

OP posts:
BoredZelda · Yesterday 22:21

They were not doing this quietly.

Evaka · Yesterday 22:26

She was off her rocker OP. What a tit.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · Today 00:19

Dollymylove · Yesterday 18:32

Did you not realise that its apples? They are organic and wont harm the environment

Yes. I know it’s apples but to me it’s just unnecessary destruction.

maxslice · Today 00:26

I might have said, “It’s nice to see kids having fun outside instead of being glued to computer screens. You’re a good mum.”

maxslice · Today 00:27

MandemChickenShop · Yesterday 15:47

13 and 15 year old kicking a load of rotten apples about is pretty anti social. they would have been booting them hard at each other and carrying on, of course they would have.

it's not crime of the century but if this is going on for half an hour it's bound to piss off others

could they not just mess about on there phone looking up memes or something like normal teenagers?

Are you serious?

Neuronimo · Today 00:32

That sounds like a total over reaction. Compared to lighting fires in nearby fields in the middle of the heatwave, I have seen a lot worse this year.

maxslice · Today 00:33

FudgeFudy · Yesterday 19:04

The apples would have spread much further away than they were in the first place.
If the apples were indeed rotten, they would made a mess - no way the apples wouldn’t have split when being kicked.

We're talking about apples. Not ebola. In a field that already has apples in it due to the presence of apple trees. Please don't come to the countryside any time soon else I fear you'd have a fit of the vapours when you see what else gets deposited in fields - all those sheep and cows and horses don't wait 'til they go home at the end of the day to take a dump you know.

Not to mention, deer, rabbits, foxes…It’s not the garden of a grand house.

Wishingwellies · Today 00:41

I think there’s a bit more to this than “they were only kicking rotten apples.” Fallen fruit isn’t necessarily waste just because it’s bruised or rotting — birds, insects and other wildlife can feed on it, and it forms part of the natural cycle as it decomposes. Kicking and stomping it all over the place means wildlife loses the opportunity to use it and it also leaves the area looking messy.
And if this was a popular picnic area, I think there’s something to be said for simply teaching children to respect the countryside and shared spaces. It’s not about stopping teenage boys having fun or making them sit quietly with a book; they can kick a football around, run about and let off steam without deliberately destroying things that are part of the environment.
One of the simplest lessons we can teach children is to leave a place as you found it — perhaps even a little better. Just because something looks insignificant or “already rotten” doesn’t mean it has no purpose. Personally, I think the other parent had a perfectly reasonable point, even if there may have been better ways of making it.

Wishingwellies · Today 00:48

Hopefully they’ll learn the difference between harmless fun and deliberately harming or disturbing wildlife. Today it’s kicking around rotten apples because they’re “only rotten”; tomorrow, where does that attitude towards living things stop? Perhaps teach them some respect for nature before “it’s only a bit of fun” becomes an excuse for something far less harmless — like thinking it’s funny to kick a hedgehog.

Chockachip · Today 01:21

Redflagsabounded · Yesterday 14:36

A field? Whose field?

It does mean that anyone walking over that area is going to get rotting apple mush stuck to their shoes. Seems very childish for lads that age.

Edited

In a field, in nature, rotting apples would be the least of the nasties on your shoes 🤣

Chockachip · Today 01:22

Wishingwellies · Today 00:48

Hopefully they’ll learn the difference between harmless fun and deliberately harming or disturbing wildlife. Today it’s kicking around rotten apples because they’re “only rotten”; tomorrow, where does that attitude towards living things stop? Perhaps teach them some respect for nature before “it’s only a bit of fun” becomes an excuse for something far less harmless — like thinking it’s funny to kick a hedgehog.

Mumsnet is bonkers after midnight. How did you get from rotting fruit to hedgehog? They dont sound like psychopaths.

Secretseverywhere · Today 01:47

I never used to let my kids kick apples when out and about as I worried about them being full of slightly drunk, annoyed wasps. I’ve witnessed quite a few shrieks at local community orchard from the Apple squishers/ kickers.

Vse500 · Today 05:46

takealettermsjones · Yesterday 20:56

You surely can't know that all of that behaviour is done by the dreaded tourists and never the locals, though. I live in a very un-touristy place and all those things go on.

Trust me - I come from a small rural tourist area originally and the locals absolutely do know!

Vse500 · Today 05:48

Wishingwellies · Today 00:48

Hopefully they’ll learn the difference between harmless fun and deliberately harming or disturbing wildlife. Today it’s kicking around rotten apples because they’re “only rotten”; tomorrow, where does that attitude towards living things stop? Perhaps teach them some respect for nature before “it’s only a bit of fun” becomes an excuse for something far less harmless — like thinking it’s funny to kick a hedgehog.

Oh my gosh this is exactly what I think - it’s only apples today, tomorrow a poor hedgehog. Lots of examples of this in the media recently. Respect nature, whatever it is.

Vse500 · Today 05:50

Chockachip · Today 01:22

Mumsnet is bonkers after midnight. How did you get from rotting fruit to hedgehog? They dont sound like psychopaths.

Not bonkers at all. All about respect for nature. Clearly lots of people in this thread have never lived in the countryside.

DooDallyHallie · Today 06:02

Your sons sound like toddlers.
Do you think people visiting this beauty spot want to see the place in its natural beauty or apple mush?
Also its pretty intimidating to see youths bring so destructive, smasjing up stuff jumping up and down on and booting apples about the place.
Would you want appkr mush smeared all over YOUR lawn?

BeethovenNinth · Today 06:08

It’s the Yorkshire dales - the field and tree will belong to someone…

I wouldn’t let my teens do that OP. It is disrespectful and wasteful. Many people will use bruised fruit. It also makes a right mess

KatMansfield6 · Today 06:11

TheZanyPanda · Yesterday 14:34

Took my two boys (DS15 and DS13) out for a walk and a picnic in the Yorkshire Dales over the weekend. It was lovely—other families were around, everyone was relaxing, and we found a nice spot in a field to sit for a bit.

After eating, I wanted to read my book for half an hour while the boys let off some steam. Near the edge of the field, there were a few wild apple trees with a ton of bruised and rotting apples all over the floor.

The lads decided to have a bit of a kick-about with them. They spent about 30 minutes mucking about with the already-fallen/rotting apples, kicking them to each other like a football, and stepping / stomping on some. They were in my sight the entire time, weren't shouting or swearing, and were just genuinely having innocent fun.

Out of nowhere, another parent walked over and had an absolute kick-off at them (and then me). She was furious, claiming they shouldn't be "kicking fruit" or "making a mess."

I stood up for the boys and said they were just letting off steam, weren't being rowdy, and the apples were already on the ground rotting anyway so no harm was done. She wasn't having it at all—told me we were "ruining the area for everyone" and said we "shouldn't come back," before storming off.

It totally ruined the atmosphere and has left a really sour taste in my mouth. They're teenage boys having a bit of fun and letting off steam with mushy apples in a field, not vandalism!

Am I Being Unreasonable to think she completely overreacted and was way out of line? Or should I have stopped them?

YBU - They were making a mess and ruining the area, leave the fruit alone. YANBU - Harmless fun with rotting apples, the other parent needs to get a grip!

This sounds like our teens. We spend a lot of time outside with them and are pretty restrictive in terms of screens so they're good at making up their own games. Said games are sometimes mildly destructive and football adjacent so very like you've described. We always step in if they're rowdy/disturbing others/doing anything that could cause any damage but I like the fact they're outside and can entertain themselves. We occasionally get comments/complaints. I actually think people are really unused to seeing teenage boys entertaining themselves outside (with the attendant physicality). While they'd say they don't like screens and children being inside in their bedrooms all the time they'd actually prefer that's where they are as the they are out of the way.

Stamping on an already rotten apple is hardly a crime, nor is using it as a football etc (presuming as already mentioned that no one is nearby and they're not making an absolute racket). My dad grew up in the 60s/early 70s and wandered around unsupervised playing various mildly destructive games. There is growing evidence that some of his generations emotional resilience came from that freedom. Our horror at an exploded apple is part of our attitude towards a whole generation of children who we'd prefer didn't bother us subdued and "safe" behind a screen. We're destroying a whole generation with this over supervised, anxious parenting. By any measure, our teens and young people are struggling and this is partly why.^^

Ahwelltoobad · Today 06:12

Can't believe the poll... Deffo harmless fun!

Londonwelshie · Today 06:13

I wouldn’t have complained but I wouldn’t have let my kids behave like that in a public park either. I do think your boys are way too old for that behaviour (was expecting you to say 3-8 year olds) - they should have just kicked a football instead.

I think a good rule of thumb for a public space is that with any activity you’re doing you should leave the place how you found it (or improve it, e.g litter picking).

I wouldn’t let my kids dig holes in the ground for that reason- something they always tried to do with their hands when they were little. Innocent enough on the beach or in our garden, but a nuisance in a public park since the ground is less stable for others. The apples being mushy and bits flung further afield is worse than the situation before your boys found them- so for that reason alone I think YWBU.

Believeitornot · Today 06:13

No wonder kids can’t go out and about to have a bit of fun.

Sartre · Today 06:16

Wishingwellies · Today 00:48

Hopefully they’ll learn the difference between harmless fun and deliberately harming or disturbing wildlife. Today it’s kicking around rotten apples because they’re “only rotten”; tomorrow, where does that attitude towards living things stop? Perhaps teach them some respect for nature before “it’s only a bit of fun” becomes an excuse for something far less harmless — like thinking it’s funny to kick a hedgehog.

Haha. Every day when I go running I have to run over rotten apples like this. Next time I might run over a pigeon to see what happens. Ridiculous post.

Nice to hear your boys were getting on and are willing to have fun with each other away from tech OP.

Anon501178 · Today 06:16

I wouldn't be too keen on my kids doing this, but only because of it getting all over their shoes!
If they are wearing wellies crack on 😆

dippy567 · Today 06:17

Sounds like wholesome fun to me. Some people complain about anything...

Believeitornot · Today 06:17

KatMansfield6 · Today 06:11

This sounds like our teens. We spend a lot of time outside with them and are pretty restrictive in terms of screens so they're good at making up their own games. Said games are sometimes mildly destructive and football adjacent so very like you've described. We always step in if they're rowdy/disturbing others/doing anything that could cause any damage but I like the fact they're outside and can entertain themselves. We occasionally get comments/complaints. I actually think people are really unused to seeing teenage boys entertaining themselves outside (with the attendant physicality). While they'd say they don't like screens and children being inside in their bedrooms all the time they'd actually prefer that's where they are as the they are out of the way.

Stamping on an already rotten apple is hardly a crime, nor is using it as a football etc (presuming as already mentioned that no one is nearby and they're not making an absolute racket). My dad grew up in the 60s/early 70s and wandered around unsupervised playing various mildly destructive games. There is growing evidence that some of his generations emotional resilience came from that freedom. Our horror at an exploded apple is part of our attitude towards a whole generation of children who we'd prefer didn't bother us subdued and "safe" behind a screen. We're destroying a whole generation with this over supervised, anxious parenting. By any measure, our teens and young people are struggling and this is partly why.^^

Edited

I agree with this.

if kids can’t even do something as harmless as kick a rotten apple without being told off, then how can they go about life? (I was kicking rotting apples in my own garden the other day at the grand old age of 45. The audacity).