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Would you buy a house with a toilet in an open-plan room?

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lostinspace00 · Yesterday 15:30

Hope to find some sensible opinions here before I (possibly) waste loads of money (and so sorry i just posted this on an existing thread by mistake).

My house has a separate dining room and kitchen with a hallway between the two leading to a toilet. I want to knock the walls down to create one large room but keep the toilet as it’s very useful. To cover all bases:
1 no I can’t afford to put the toilet anywhere else it would make the job too expensive

  1. I want to keep the toilet (it’s a shower too) rather than get rid of it as it’s useful.

would you buy a house with a toilet in the middle of a big open plan room?

I’ve created some excellent architectural designs to show you what I mean (by excellent I mean a bit shit)

Thank you to anyone who can be bothered to respond

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Yetone · Yesterday 16:48

JuneSoon · Yesterday 16:32

My niece has just bought a new build and the huge downstairs loo opens directly into the small kitchen/living room.

Eta @beaglescurleduplikebagels you are doing a sterling job trying to educate people about building regs!

Edited

I think downstairs loos have to be big now. Building regs require them to take a wheelchair,

tealandteal · Yesterday 16:48

What about if you built a utility room/boot room around the current toilet room. So you open a door into the utility and then a separate door into the bathroom. You would have a little less room but you could put hoover/ironing board/ all the stuff you don’t want on display in there.

Maisy7 · Yesterday 16:50

Definitely not....I think you need to re-think your plans. Definitely the idea of a utility room with toilet/shower within is a much better option. Keep it separate.

Miyagi99 · Yesterday 16:51

SethTrek · Yesterday 15:36

I don't think that would pass building regs. A toilet can't be directly off a kitchen. You need 2 doors between the kitchen sink and the loo

Not true, loads of new builds have toilets in the kitchen.

Hollowvoice · Yesterday 16:51

SecretDressAgent · Yesterday 16:33

Think of the men or boys getting near the door if a woman is in there.

What?

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 16:52

Yetone · Yesterday 16:48

I think downstairs loos have to be big now. Building regs require them to take a wheelchair,

Only in new properties, not existing ones @Yetone.

theneighbourgotmycake · Yesterday 16:52

I would have to budget to relocate said toilets immediately, so your house would be very bottom of my list I am afraid.

FairKoala · Yesterday 16:53

BritsAbroadly · Yesterday 15:48

I think you need two doors between a kitchen and loo? It would be properly grim either way and I really wouldn’t.

Not anymore

theneighbourgotmycake · Yesterday 16:53

SecretDressAgent · Yesterday 16:33

Think of the men or boys getting near the door if a woman is in there.

what?

CallMeFran · Yesterday 16:55

I wouldn’t even view a house with your new layout. It looks odd and no one would want to use the loo if everyone is socialising.

KittyWilkinson · Yesterday 16:56

SethTrek · Yesterday 15:36

I don't think that would pass building regs. A toilet can't be directly off a kitchen. You need 2 doors between the kitchen sink and the loo

I was thinking this. I agree. I don't think your proposal complies with current building regs.

lostinspace00 · Yesterday 16:56

Thank you everyone. I’ve not used mumsnet before so I don’t know how to reply to individual posts but there are some great ideas but sadly out of our budget. Making a bigger utility/toilet is a good idea but defeats the whole point as it would take up too much space so wouldn’t be open plan. I don’t want to knock into the family room as it’s too big a job, we’d lose half the kitchen cupboards and you’d have to see it to know it would look rubbish.

We can’t afford to move the toilet either it’s out of our budget. We could just cap it off and get rid of it altogether (we have two toilets upstairs).

you all may have just saved me ££££ so thank you.

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Frombeyond · Yesterday 16:56

Imagine sitting at the dining table eating a nice dinner and then Fred stands up and goes and takes a shit in a box in the middle of the room. Hearing the flush. If not worse. Ridiculous idea. Save up until you can afford to move the toilet - it’s not that big an expense.

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 16:56

KittyWilkinson · Yesterday 16:56

I was thinking this. I agree. I don't think your proposal complies with current building regs.

...yes, it does.

Alittlefrustrated · Yesterday 16:57

SethTrek · Yesterday 15:36

I don't think that would pass building regs. A toilet can't be directly off a kitchen. You need 2 doors between the kitchen sink and the loo

Only 1 door is required in England and Wales.

FairKoala · Yesterday 16:58

I would make it into a laundry room and incorporate it into the kitchen.

Presumably you are having a room that will be kitchen/dining room/living room combined in which case you need the laundry room to cancel out the noise of the washing machine etc.
Would however lose the shower.

MonstrousRegimentRocks · Yesterday 16:58

Dear god, no! Just get rid if you can't afford to have it properly separated.

Wadsworthy · Yesterday 16:58

Good Lord no!!!!

Don't do it. Do not do it.

Goatsarebest · Yesterday 16:58

You will need a vented intervening lobby if it opening onto food area. I would only buy it with a significant discount to move it, if you put it on the market. I suspect not the only one who would want the duscount.
Can you not use your obvious talent and freelance as an architect and earn enough to build an extension.

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 17:00

Goatsarebest · Yesterday 16:58

You will need a vented intervening lobby if it opening onto food area. I would only buy it with a significant discount to move it, if you put it on the market. I suspect not the only one who would want the duscount.
Can you not use your obvious talent and freelance as an architect and earn enough to build an extension.

....no, she won't.

One door between a bathroom and kitchen is fine, as long as the bathroom has a wash basin inside it.

At least read up on the law before acting as though you know what it says!

KittyWilkinson · Yesterday 17:01

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 16:56

...yes, it does.

Really? How? A toilet opening directly into a living area in a home?

seahorsessky · Yesterday 17:01

Lived in a rented house with something like this (it was an old but fairly big terrace, so it wouldn't have been the original design, and I always wondered why it was added like that).
It was, as you say, useful to have an extra toilet and shower, and we just didn't entertain guests near it, we always had them in the other "reception/gathering/whatever" room. But it depends on who (like how much family/friends you tend to have round whether that'll suit you. Still, many more open plan build literally have the toilet/shower opening into the kitchen. It's why open plan would never be my choice unless you live alone.

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 17:01

JuneSoon · Yesterday 16:32

My niece has just bought a new build and the huge downstairs loo opens directly into the small kitchen/living room.

Eta @beaglescurleduplikebagels you are doing a sterling job trying to educate people about building regs!

Edited

Ha thank you, it's such a frustrating thread to read.

So many people getting it wrong!

WonderingWanda · Yesterday 17:01

Misleading title, I thought you meant there would literally be a toilet left behind in the room and you'd properly lost the plot.

Goatsarebest · Yesterday 17:03

FairKoala · Yesterday 16:53

Not anymore

Not if it is domestic and you have mechanical ventilation and a Wash Hand Basin in the toilet and you are in England or Wales. Scotland different. But from experience, you really need it if possible.