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Would you hang this in your house?

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Floofparty · 13/09/2026 14:41

My DH has inherited a framed certificate and medal which was presented to a relative in 1937 when she was a British army nurse. She was stationed in Spain when a German battleship was bombed and she helped care for the injured.

The medal was awarded to her by the German Red Cross with the approval of Adolf Hitler, and his name is very prominent on the certificate - it stands out more than any of the other text. Do you think it’s bad taste to hang this in our house, or is it merely an interesting piece of historical memorabilia?

YABU - guests may take offence or think it odd
YANBU - hang the frame

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DemonsandMosquitoes · 19/09/2026 16:18

I’d probably sell it. Someone will at some point anyway.

Duckduckgander · 19/09/2026 16:39

AlwaysExtraHot · 19/09/2026 14:47

LOL, no, I’m an English monoglot.
I mean that the name (not signature; the signature is someone else’s) is there to show that Hitler was the leader of the organisation in question at the time.
That seems to me to be an administrative thing, but maybe I should have said ‘bureaucratic’?

I am also interested to hear what qualifies a nursing certificate as Nazi memorabilia.

Good luck getting that explanation! 😏

AlwaysExtraHot · 19/09/2026 18:20

Duckduckgander · 19/09/2026 16:39

Good luck getting that explanation! 😏

I know, but hope springs eternal!

Duckduckgander · 19/09/2026 18:30

AlwaysExtraHot · 19/09/2026 18:20

I know, but hope springs eternal!

😆

Crispsandcola · 19/09/2026 22:01

AlwaysExtraHot · 19/09/2026 14:47

LOL, no, I’m an English monoglot.
I mean that the name (not signature; the signature is someone else’s) is there to show that Hitler was the leader of the organisation in question at the time.
That seems to me to be an administrative thing, but maybe I should have said ‘bureaucratic’?

I am also interested to hear what qualifies a nursing certificate as Nazi memorabilia.

This is a certificate approved by one of the most evil people in history. The certificate may have been stamped prominently with his name as a bureaucratic seal of approval at a time before he had gained sufficient power to enact his genocide and acts of war but that isn't the point.
If something brings a particular person, era or period in history to mind, it's memorabilia. I stand by my assertion that I would not want to remain on friendly terms with someone who chose to display memorabilia relating to Adolf Hitler no matter what the reason. At best, it demonstrates a lack of social and emotional intelligence.

HelpMeGetThrough · 20/09/2026 09:07

Ooops!! I’ve got a cartoon poster in the hallway with Hitler on it. Guess I’d be heavily judged by quite a few on this thread.

Notsosweetcaroline · 20/09/2026 10:40

HelpMeGetThrough · 20/09/2026 09:07

Ooops!! I’ve got a cartoon poster in the hallway with Hitler on it. Guess I’d be heavily judged by quite a few on this thread.

Yes, most people do not find Hitler funny or joke worthy. He is one of the most heinous individuals in history, responsible for the deaths of up to 50 million people at a high level, and that’s before you start to delve into the holocaust.

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/09/2026 12:14

Crispsandcola · 19/09/2026 22:01

This is a certificate approved by one of the most evil people in history. The certificate may have been stamped prominently with his name as a bureaucratic seal of approval at a time before he had gained sufficient power to enact his genocide and acts of war but that isn't the point.
If something brings a particular person, era or period in history to mind, it's memorabilia. I stand by my assertion that I would not want to remain on friendly terms with someone who chose to display memorabilia relating to Adolf Hitler no matter what the reason. At best, it demonstrates a lack of social and emotional intelligence.

On social and emotional intelligence, I’d refer back to a comment early in this thread about the nurse who this certificate brings to mind: that, in acting with undiscriminating compassion, she was doing what the Nazis couldn’t.
IMO it takes a great deal of social and emotional intelligence to reconcile the presence of Hitler’s name with the knowledge of what this nurse did and was commemorated for.

Crispsandcola · 20/09/2026 18:16

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/09/2026 12:14

On social and emotional intelligence, I’d refer back to a comment early in this thread about the nurse who this certificate brings to mind: that, in acting with undiscriminating compassion, she was doing what the Nazis couldn’t.
IMO it takes a great deal of social and emotional intelligence to reconcile the presence of Hitler’s name with the knowledge of what this nurse did and was commemorated for.

IMO it is not socially or emotionally intelligent to feel that people should be forced to make that reconciliation.
If they were proud of their relative to the point where they wanted to initiate discussions with the people visiting their house about her amazing bravery and undiscriminating compassion then a picture of her or a medal or nursing certificate awarded by the British Army or medical school would be a more appropriate way to do this.

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/09/2026 19:05

Crispsandcola · 20/09/2026 18:16

IMO it is not socially or emotionally intelligent to feel that people should be forced to make that reconciliation.
If they were proud of their relative to the point where they wanted to initiate discussions with the people visiting their house about her amazing bravery and undiscriminating compassion then a picture of her or a medal or nursing certificate awarded by the British Army or medical school would be a more appropriate way to do this.

‘forced’ is an interesting choice of word. I tend to feel that anyone I know well enough to have in my house, that would be their response, rather than to accuse me of harbouring Nazi memorabilia/being a neo-Nazi.

In this case, the OP doesn’t have a picture of the relative or another certificate.

HexInductionHour · 20/09/2026 19:10

It’s mouldy and smelly old tat and of no use just throw it away

LastNightMyPJsSavedMyLife · 20/09/2026 19:13

I’d hang it. It’s about the relative not Hitler. A very interesting historical piece. My FIL was in a camp before anyone comes for me.

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/09/2026 19:20

HexInductionHour · 20/09/2026 19:10

It’s mouldy and smelly old tat and of no use just throw it away

Is it mouldy and smelly? Confused

twosmallaxolotls · 20/09/2026 19:21

I'm guessing this is the Deutschland incident? The following day, the Germans bombed the city of Almeria in retaliation. A taste of things to come.
Your choice, the nurse did a humanitarian act of course.

mathanxiety · 20/09/2026 20:15

I would not hang anything with the name or signature of Adolf Hitler (or any other Nazi) anywhere in my house.

If there's a photo of your relative, I'd hang that, maybe with a blurb about her bravery and sense of duty as a nurse.

As a PP suggested, I'd offer the document to the War Museum or to the Red Cross or any memorial to nurses who served their fellow humans in the wars of the 20th century.

HexInductionHour · 21/09/2026 09:56

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/09/2026 19:20

Is it mouldy and smelly? Confused

Old paper is always foxed and smelly, plus it has Shitlers name on it.

Floofparty · 21/09/2026 10:38

HexInductionHour · 21/09/2026 09:56

Old paper is always foxed and smelly, plus it has Shitlers name on it.

It’s behind glass and seems to have been preserved remarkably well.

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AlwaysExtraHot · 21/09/2026 10:51

HexInductionHour · 21/09/2026 09:56

Old paper is always foxed and smelly, plus it has Shitlers name on it.

See the OP's reply below.

HexInductionHour · 21/09/2026 11:17

Floofparty · 21/09/2026 10:38

It’s behind glass and seems to have been preserved remarkably well.

i stand corrected - in answer to your question though no, it may give visitors or the casual observer the wrong idea

Crispsandcola · 21/09/2026 21:47

AlwaysExtraHot · 20/09/2026 19:05

‘forced’ is an interesting choice of word. I tend to feel that anyone I know well enough to have in my house, that would be their response, rather than to accuse me of harbouring Nazi memorabilia/being a neo-Nazi.

In this case, the OP doesn’t have a picture of the relative or another certificate.

The word forced is 'interesting' to you, is it? What a meaningless thing to write. I'm 'interested' to see that you made the leap from discussing the moral implications behind displaying a certificate with a prominent connection to the leader of the Nazi party straight to me 'accusing' you of 'harbouring' (that is an interesting and emotive word to use) nazi memorabilia and even of being a Neo Nazi. You seem to be taking this very personally which is a recipe for disaster in debate. I think this interaction should end here.

AlwaysExtraHot · Yesterday 08:40

Crispsandcola · 21/09/2026 21:47

The word forced is 'interesting' to you, is it? What a meaningless thing to write. I'm 'interested' to see that you made the leap from discussing the moral implications behind displaying a certificate with a prominent connection to the leader of the Nazi party straight to me 'accusing' you of 'harbouring' (that is an interesting and emotive word to use) nazi memorabilia and even of being a Neo Nazi. You seem to be taking this very personally which is a recipe for disaster in debate. I think this interaction should end here.

Gosh, odd response.
I said 'interesting' as I think it suggests a few potential motivations behind it (that a person showing this certificate would sort of march friends up to it and insist on a conversation; that a visitor would not/could not have a think about the certificate and its history proactively and unilaterally, but would need to be 'made' to do so in some way... I would have liked you to engage with what I was saying and used 'interesting' as an invitation to continue the discussion.

On 'accusing', looking at my last post again I'm confident that it's clear that what I was talking about was a hypothetical visitor possibly accusing me of harbouring Nazi memorabilia/being a neo-Nazi. Not you. If we're talking about taking things personally.

Duckduckgander · Yesterday 17:23

AlwaysExtraHot · 19/09/2026 18:20

I know, but hope springs eternal!

Might be time to move on to "Blessed is the man who expects nothing"

AlwaysExtraHot · Yesterday 17:46

Duckduckgander · Yesterday 17:23

Might be time to move on to "Blessed is the man who expects nothing"

Grin
Crispsandcola · Today 00:06

AlwaysExtraHot · Yesterday 08:40

Gosh, odd response.
I said 'interesting' as I think it suggests a few potential motivations behind it (that a person showing this certificate would sort of march friends up to it and insist on a conversation; that a visitor would not/could not have a think about the certificate and its history proactively and unilaterally, but would need to be 'made' to do so in some way... I would have liked you to engage with what I was saying and used 'interesting' as an invitation to continue the discussion.

On 'accusing', looking at my last post again I'm confident that it's clear that what I was talking about was a hypothetical visitor possibly accusing me of harbouring Nazi memorabilia/being a neo-Nazi. Not you. If we're talking about taking things personally.

I don't continue debate when the other party attempts to use DARVO to score points. This interaction is over.

AlwaysExtraHot · Today 09:50

Crispsandcola · Today 00:06

I don't continue debate when the other party attempts to use DARVO to score points. This interaction is over.

DARVO??? This gets weirder and weirder.