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AIBU to think Labour are worsening tensions at home and abroad?

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SweetAudry · 08/09/2026 16:10

Not content with making us enemy No.1 with Russia, pissing off the USA, rising tensions with Argentina … they’ve now managed to make an enemy of Isreal too.

Dont even get me started on the hostility rising within our own country!

WTF are Labour playing at??

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 08/09/2026 17:42

Sir Edward Leigh MP:

“What is happening in the West Bank... is ethnic cleansing... I am proud to say, as the longest-serving member of the Conservative Friends of Israel, that I absolutely and fully support what [Ed Miliband] is doing today, because it’s about standing up for freedom and justice"

https://bsky.app/profile/henrymance.ft.com/post/3muzhcautnk22

Henry Mance (@henrymance.ft.com)

Sir Edward Leigh MP: “What is happening in the West Bank... is ethnic cleansing... I am proud to say, as the longest-serving member of the Conservative Friends of Israel, that I absolutely and fully support what [Ed Miliband] is doing today, because...

https://bsky.app/profile/henrymance.ft.com/post/3muzhcautnk22

BigYellowBus · 08/09/2026 17:42

Other than handing over the Falklands,what should e be doing to improve relations with Argentina?

catmothertes1 · 08/09/2026 17:43

ilovesooty · 08/09/2026 16:46

Oh it's another Labour government bashing thread. I'm sure people will soon be gathering to join in. Just how is the current government particularly responsible for rising tensions with Argentina?

Looks as if Trump and Bibi have found their useful idiot by backing up Argentina.

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 17:44

HandPulledNoodles · 08/09/2026 17:37

The problem with that argument is that “British interests” can’t just mean avoiding any action that might carry a cost. Sometimes defending international law and setting boundaries is in Britain’s long-term strategic interest.

Yes absolutely but there is a lot going on, the Gazans will be going to elections, there is a rebuild to worry about. Gazans will understandably have zero access to work in Israel for a while, at least some Palestinians interest the west bank are employed. What they are proposing to do will probably means some Palestinians experience job losses and if Israel chooses to it will cause job losses here.

This is soundbite politics, it’s for domestic consumption to stop the haemorrhaging to the greens and gaza Mp’s but some poor bastard in the West Bank is going to get laid off as well as possibly some poor bastard in a pharma production site in the UK. If it was in any way useful to anyone I would look a bit more kindly on it. This is entirely to soothe anyone for whom Gaza is their main point of concern.

LaurieFairyCake · 08/09/2026 17:45

About time we stood up to those cunts. Was LONG OVERDUE.

chilipie · 08/09/2026 17:48

Ducketta · 08/09/2026 16:36

I agree that none of these countries should be appeased. The Gaza situation is complicated and I find people that bang on about Gaza the whole time tiresome but the West Bank is absolutely outrageous, with Israeli settlers just acting as terrorists. Horrifying.

Yeah me too. Hate it when people bang on about the 20,000 dead and 40,000 injured children. So tiresome.

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 17:57

The closure of the Uk embassy will also massively disrupt the UK’s access to Palestinian authorities/charities/ uk charities operating in Israel.

Literally not a single Palestinian will be helped, we will lose some exports, access, intelligence etc etc.

This is the worst kind of politics, it does nothing substantive to bring about resolution or help anyone.

I’m opposed to the west bank settlements and I can still see this is a silly thing to do. It was a short term bit of electioneering which will have long reaching consequences.

HandPulledNoodles · 08/09/2026 17:58

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 17:44

Yes absolutely but there is a lot going on, the Gazans will be going to elections, there is a rebuild to worry about. Gazans will understandably have zero access to work in Israel for a while, at least some Palestinians interest the west bank are employed. What they are proposing to do will probably means some Palestinians experience job losses and if Israel chooses to it will cause job losses here.

This is soundbite politics, it’s for domestic consumption to stop the haemorrhaging to the greens and gaza Mp’s but some poor bastard in the West Bank is going to get laid off as well as possibly some poor bastard in a pharma production site in the UK. If it was in any way useful to anyone I would look a bit more kindly on it. This is entirely to soothe anyone for whom Gaza is their main point of concern.

I agree with you we haven't gone nearly far enough. But I was responding to the PP's point about putting British interests first.

JHound · 08/09/2026 18:00

SweetAudry · 08/09/2026 16:10

Not content with making us enemy No.1 with Russia, pissing off the USA, rising tensions with Argentina … they’ve now managed to make an enemy of Isreal too.

Dont even get me started on the hostility rising within our own country!

WTF are Labour playing at??

I don’t see why we should care about tensions with those places though? Not like we have been the cause of them.

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 08/09/2026 18:01

We’re pissing off the USA? Have you ever heard any of Trump’s trumping? And it is Trump, now threatening both Greenland and Canada, who is encouraging Argentina. Israel, c’mon that’s a nightmare situation. But mention of Putin tells me you’re just taking the mick.

JHound · 08/09/2026 18:01

Also while I see why the are so many differing views on Gaza - how can ANYBODY defend the settlers behaviour in the West Bank.

JHound · 08/09/2026 18:03

SweetAudry · 08/09/2026 16:10

Not content with making us enemy No.1 with Russia, pissing off the USA, rising tensions with Argentina … they’ve now managed to make an enemy of Isreal too.

Dont even get me started on the hostility rising within our own country!

WTF are Labour playing at??

I also have no idea how you have made Argentina’s refusal to accept The Falklands sovereign rights about Labour. What a deranged thing to say.

metameta · 08/09/2026 18:09

We shouldn’t pander to bullies.

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 18:09

Bringemout · 08/09/2026 17:57

The closure of the Uk embassy will also massively disrupt the UK’s access to Palestinian authorities/charities/ uk charities operating in Israel.

Literally not a single Palestinian will be helped, we will lose some exports, access, intelligence etc etc.

This is the worst kind of politics, it does nothing substantive to bring about resolution or help anyone.

I’m opposed to the west bank settlements and I can still see this is a silly thing to do. It was a short term bit of electioneering which will have long reaching consequences.

I don’t really get this- the uk embassy obviously aren’t the only people helping Palestinian charities so why would not a Palestinian be helped?

it would seem logical/ common sense for charities to simply feed through an alternative embassy?!

Shatenoeuf · 08/09/2026 18:11

Its completely standard to impose sanctions where a state breaches international law. Settlements in the West Bank are illegal.

JoeSikoraTommysStory · 08/09/2026 20:00

I agree with pissing off Russia, USA & Argentina but fucking with Israel isn’t a good move in fact it’s the worse thing to do.

HandPulledNoodles · 08/09/2026 20:01

JoeSikoraTommysStory · 08/09/2026 20:00

I agree with pissing off Russia, USA & Argentina but fucking with Israel isn’t a good move in fact it’s the worse thing to do.

Why?

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 20:02

JoeSikoraTommysStory · 08/09/2026 20:00

I agree with pissing off Russia, USA & Argentina but fucking with Israel isn’t a good move in fact it’s the worse thing to do.

Yes agree, why? What are Isreal going to do?

Tomatill0 · 08/09/2026 20:08

YABVU

Finally we have a government standing up to Israel and their truly dreadful actions.

Namexhangedforthis · 08/09/2026 20:11

Ed Miliband and his naive and stupid ilk are no match for Mossad - do you honestly think it’s just a coincidence? They are very powerful (and I don’t mean Labour!)

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 20:13

Mikiband is a fucking embarrassment. What hold has he got over the Labour Party?

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 20:14

Tomatill0 · 08/09/2026 20:08

YABVU

Finally we have a government standing up to Israel and their truly dreadful actions.

The Muslim Brotherhood are rubbing their hands with glee.

Millytante · 08/09/2026 20:23

Are you just hoping to spark verbal fisticuffs, or what?
Everyone, or most, will have strong opinions re the countries on your list, pro or anti as the case may be, not to mention ditto about a Labour government.

(I reckon standing up to countries who believe in the Big Stick approach to international relations is an honourable and urgent position for a government to hold, and it isnt Labour who threaten what peace there is)

Lemonfrost · 08/09/2026 20:29

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 08/09/2026 16:32

You want to appease Russia? Russia? Putin? Seriously?
You're either nuts, stupid, or being paid by Russia. Or something else I can't quite put my finger on.
But it ain't nice.
Traitorous! That's it.

Yep, something is off with OP for sure....

Lemonfrost · 08/09/2026 20:32

NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 08/09/2026 16:33

All three examples should never be appeased.
Trumps a fucking nut case he needs to hear the word no more often.

Well said.