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AIBU to think leaving this angry marriage may be best?

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Boxhike · 02/09/2026 21:34

I’m looking for some outside perspective because I think I’ve reached the point where I know my marriage is over, but I’m terrified of actually doing it.
Married with two children, early teens/primary age. One of our children has additional needs (autism/ADHD) and requires quite a lot of advocacy and organisation.
I do pretty much all of the mental load and day-to-day organisation for the children and household. School communication, parent-teacher meetings, assemblies, uniforms, appointments, additional-needs advocacy, groceries, Christmas/Santa, clothes, organising things etc. DH works hard and contributes financially, but the actual running of family life overwhelmingly falls to me.
A really mundane example which probably sounds ridiculous: we get our groceries delivered. DH refuses to use the app. I even downloaded it onto his phone so he could add things to the basket, but he simply won’t use it. Yet every week I get repeatedly asked, “Have we a shop booked?” If I haven’t booked it yet, it’s “Why haven’t we a shop booked?” If I’ve arranged Click & Collect rather than delivery, it’s “Why did you do Click & Collect?”
I know that’s utterly trivial in isolation. But after years of being responsible for doing things while simultaneously being questioned about how/when I’ve done them, I feel completely worn down by it.
The bigger problem is his temper.
He shouts a lot and has called me an “ignorant cunt” during arguments more than once recently. There has also been an incident where he threw a phone at me while we were in bed.
Recently our 13-year-old swore. DH screamed at her and confiscated her phone, initially saying she wouldn’t get it back until the following day. I intervened and said I thought a shorter consequence was enough and told him when she could have it back. He threw the phone onto the bed and said, “Do what you want.”
About half an hour later I gave it back to her.
Afterwards she spoke to me privately and said, “Why did you marry him? You could do so much better. All he does is work and shout at us three. I wish you would divorce him.”
Later she asked what would happen if we separated. I said that nobody knew and that she might potentially have to live in a different house.
Her response was: “As long as it’s not with him.”
At that point I stopped the conversation. I told her she’s only 13, I need to be very measured about what I discuss with her and that the grown-up decisions aren’t hers to make. I haven’t told her I’m leaving, promised that she’d live with me or criticised her dad to her.
That conversation has really shaken me.
I’ve spent a long time thinking that keeping the family together was the right thing for the children. I’m now wondering whether I’m actually asking them to live in an angry, unhappy house because I’m frightened of the consequences of leaving.
Our younger child hasn’t said anything as explicit, so I don’t want to put words into his mouth, but he is obviously living in the same atmosphere.
Financially I’m frightened too. Our family home is mortgage-free (the mortgage was paid off using an insurance payout I received following a serious illness). There are some other complicated family/property finances which I won’t go into here. DH wouldn’t be left destitute — he works — but I feel enormous guilt about what his life would look like if we separated.
I’m also scared he’ll become very nasty once he realises I’m serious.
I am booking an appointment with a family solicitor so I can understand the position regarding the children, house and finances before I do anything. I haven’t told DH I’m doing this and I’m not planning to announce anything until I’ve had proper advice.
I suppose what I’m asking is: for those who have left an angry/unhappy marriage where there wasn’t constant physical violence, how did you know you’d reached the point where leaving was better for the children than staying?
And how did you get past the overwhelming guilt and fear that you were blowing up everybody’s lives?
Please be straight with me. I genuinely want outside perspectives, including if you think there’s something I’m not seeing.

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nutbrownhare15 · 02/09/2026 21:47

Do contact domestic abuse organisations too for support and safety advice OP. This is domestic abuse.

Thepeopleversuswork · 02/09/2026 21:48

I think you have answered your own question. You and your children are living with an angry, abusive man and it is poisonous to all of you. Your daughter has the measure of this man.

I’m not going to pretend its easy or that you can do this overnight but stop lying to yourself about “keeping the family together”. You know perfectly well that you and your family deserve better.

For the record if anyone called me an “ignorant cunt” it would be sudden death for the marriage. Its not alright and you know its not.

LetterBetter · 02/09/2026 21:49

He's horrifyingly abusive.

Please seek advice as per PP above.

Boxhike · 02/09/2026 21:52

Thank you. This has been brewing and like everything has come to breaking point. I broke down and told my parents abd my brother and his wife at the weekend. They are very supportive and also horrified. To add I work fulll time and also have a successful career abd my parents look after my kids

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Bananacrepewithnuts · 02/09/2026 23:24

Thepeopleversuswork · 02/09/2026 21:48

I think you have answered your own question. You and your children are living with an angry, abusive man and it is poisonous to all of you. Your daughter has the measure of this man.

I’m not going to pretend its easy or that you can do this overnight but stop lying to yourself about “keeping the family together”. You know perfectly well that you and your family deserve better.

For the record if anyone called me an “ignorant cunt” it would be sudden death for the marriage. Its not alright and you know its not.

This.
A 13 year old kid can see that you all shouldn't be living like this.

Seek your legal advice then make an exit plan.
X

CatFairy · 02/09/2026 23:36

I’m so sorry you’re in an abusive relationship with this man. Would he want to care for the children if/when you separate?

You say you’re getting advice from a solicitor, which is a very good idea; I would say make sure they have expertise in child arrangements, because you need to make decisions based on a strong and realistic grasp of facts, including some understanding of a deeply flawed family court ethos that very often prioritises relationships with both parents (by which I mean living with both parents) at all costs, over the wellbeing and wishes of children (particularly younger ones whose wishes carry less weight – this may apply to your primary-aged child).

somanychristmaslights · 02/09/2026 23:53

What a horrible person. Anyone who loves someone doesn’t call them a c*, such a vile word. You’re absolutely doing the right thing, it’s affecting the children and you’d all be better off without him.

Boxhike · 03/09/2026 07:12

CatFairy · 02/09/2026 23:36

I’m so sorry you’re in an abusive relationship with this man. Would he want to care for the children if/when you separate?

You say you’re getting advice from a solicitor, which is a very good idea; I would say make sure they have expertise in child arrangements, because you need to make decisions based on a strong and realistic grasp of facts, including some understanding of a deeply flawed family court ethos that very often prioritises relationships with both parents (by which I mean living with both parents) at all costs, over the wellbeing and wishes of children (particularly younger ones whose wishes carry less weight – this may apply to your primary-aged child).

Yes he would want to have them if we separated. I think he thinks he could have full or fully shared custody, his version of reality doesn’t align with everyone else’s…this scares me because he’ll become very difficult.

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Boxhike · 03/09/2026 07:16

Just to add. He doesn’t take much to do with our daughter. She’s autistic- more the ‘Asperger’ side of things. She’s great company and very astute however she does have her little obsessions about anime etc and sometimes likes to discuss this. I’ll admit after a few minutes I have to pretend to still be interested 🫣 but she loves chatting about it so much. He’ll engage with the bare minimum which breaks my heart. He’s also called her a goon when she’s being difficult.

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Frumpitydoo · 03/09/2026 07:18

My Dad was like your DH. I was your daughter!!! I used to fantasise about poisoning him regularly and was suicidal from age 5. My mental health is horrible to this day (mid 40s) and i can litereally never lower my shoulders, their default position is upround my ears in a constant state of stress, my teeth ground away to stumps. Please leave. I now live in an entirely femal household and while i'll never heal, the peace and calm is divine. No shouting, walking on eggshells or anger. Please leave. I implore you again, please leave.

Frumpitydoo · 03/09/2026 07:20

Also, gooning means wanking to the younger generation, he called her a goon?!! I'm guessing we are in different parts of the country?!!

Maray1967 · 03/09/2026 07:21

It sounds as though, practically and financially, you are in a strong position to leave him.

No matter what he wants, he isn’t going to see much of your DD at least, by the sound of it. Even if he does, them being away from him for some of the week at least will be beneficial to them.

Boxhike · 03/09/2026 07:22

Frumpitydoo · 03/09/2026 07:18

My Dad was like your DH. I was your daughter!!! I used to fantasise about poisoning him regularly and was suicidal from age 5. My mental health is horrible to this day (mid 40s) and i can litereally never lower my shoulders, their default position is upround my ears in a constant state of stress, my teeth ground away to stumps. Please leave. I now live in an entirely femal household and while i'll never heal, the peace and calm is divine. No shouting, walking on eggshells or anger. Please leave. I implore you again, please leave.

Horrific! Assuming your mother and him stayed together? I can honestly say if this all works out I will never live with another man. Not saying I won’t ever be with another man but never sharing my life and my house. Peace and my kids contentment will be my priority and actually makes me a little excited thinking about it - which makes a change to the ball of fear in my stomach!

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Barney16 · 03/09/2026 07:23

I was married to a very angry man. He was very difficult when we separated but the peace and quiet was worth it.

drsp51 · 03/09/2026 07:23

Get it sorted and leave now while you are still young. I was in a similar situation, stayed too long “for the sake of the children”. Now they are grown up, he has dementia and morally I feel obliged to stay and care for him. Just feel I have wasted most of my life on a selfish, unpleasant, incompetent man

Gettingbysomehow · 03/09/2026 07:24

Who cares what his life will look like when you leave. He is a grown man not a child to be looked after and pacified. He has choices to be a better person and chooses not to be.
Your children will hate you if you dont leave.
Leave and have a lovely peaceful life.
I did it and you can do it.

GremlinDolphin4 · 03/09/2026 07:36

I have been here and I think it would help to think that you are not blowing up one life but sorting out three. This is on him. In hindsight I wish I had left earlier but there was a lot going on and I too thought that keeping the family together was important - it’s literally not - the important people are your children and what is right for them will be better for you too in this situation. You have done the important bit of telling people close to you and I am sending you positive thoughts and strength to keep going. It is horrible but there is love and calm on the other side. Xxx

Ikeepforgettingmykeys · 03/09/2026 07:45

I remember asking my mother the same question as a teen. Her response was exactly as yours.

Both parents are reportedly confused as to why I have hardly any contact with them now.

whippersnapper55 · 03/09/2026 07:46

OP he is abusive, please get your children and yourself away from him. Your children deserve to grow up in a peaceful home, not walking on eggshells around an angry man!

Yes he will probably be difficult while you are going through separation and divorce but keep your eyes on the light at the end of the tunnel - a peaceful, happy life with your children.

Get legal advice before you speak to him. Don't feel guilty - he has brought this about with his abusive behaviour. He's a grown man and he is not your responsibility. He is responsible for sorting out his own life. Your responsibility is to yourself and your children.

I'm glad you have the support of your family. Lean on them when the going gets tough. You can do this 💐

Beamur · 03/09/2026 07:49

I was much happier after my parents divorced. Kids aren't happy in miserable families. Good luck.

Thepeopleversuswork · 03/09/2026 07:50

Boxhike · 03/09/2026 07:12

Yes he would want to have them if we separated. I think he thinks he could have full or fully shared custody, his version of reality doesn’t align with everyone else’s…this scares me because he’ll become very difficult.

He is not going to get full custody OP. Lots of abusive men use this as a stick to beat their partners during the divorce process. There would have to be a really extreme reason for awarding him sole custody. Talk to your lawyer.

ScaredAndPanicky · 03/09/2026 07:52

I realised too late.
I left when i thought he started being abusive to the children in the same way he was to me.
Turns out he had been horribly abusive to the children whenever I wasn't there. It was so normal to them they assumed I knew.

And yes he was horrendous while we were there but after I said I wanted to get divorced things went to a whole new level so in the end we ran away to a refuge.

If your children can see his behaviour get out as soon as you can.

Edited to add - he made all sorts of claims to how he would get full custody of the children. Strangely he has only seen one of them once since we divorced 3 years ago. Didnt even fight to get custody. Although he did ditch his £90k job in just so he didn't have to pay maintenance. But given he never gave any money to household finances the whole time we were together the only person who lost out there was him.

SapphireSeptember · 03/09/2026 07:53

Boxhike · 03/09/2026 07:12

Yes he would want to have them if we separated. I think he thinks he could have full or fully shared custody, his version of reality doesn’t align with everyone else’s…this scares me because he’ll become very difficult.

As your kids are older their wishes will be taken into account.

ChamonixMountainBum · 03/09/2026 07:55

You are absolutely doing the right thing and the fact that your young daughter is flagging her concerns is a massive red flag. As others have said you are in an abusive marriage and it will only get worse. Do not feel guilty about his circumstances post divorce, that is just Stockholm Syndrome talking.

Ikeepforgettingmykeys · 03/09/2026 07:56

Just to add, your daughter is at the age where she is likely Gillick competent and her wishes should be considered regarding contact (or lack of it) with her father after separation.