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AIBU to feel angry about Notting Hill Carnival behaviour?

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ProudBlackMomma · 01/09/2026 10:41

Any other London folk mortified by the Notting Hill carnival? Hundreds of arrests, lewd behaviour, vulgarity and litter. It does not represent my culture. It’s an embarrassment.

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Rothburypixie · 01/09/2026 13:39

LondonLass2026 · 01/09/2026 13:38

636 arrests. I don't recall the equivalent percentage ever happening at football. Yes sometimes things happen at football but never on an equivalent scale, and I've been to literally hundreds of matches over the decades and rarely seen any trouble.

The first and last time I went to the Notting Hill Carnival was 1999, and the second my sister and I arrived, a guy swung around out of nowhere and punched me hard in the stomach. Absolutely unprovoked. We'd literally just arrived and were chatting quietly.

So as far as I'm concerned, the carnival can get to fuck.

My brothers friend got stabbed at a football match, football matches can get to fuck

nomas · 01/09/2026 13:40

LondonLass2026 · 01/09/2026 13:38

636 arrests. I don't recall the equivalent percentage ever happening at football. Yes sometimes things happen at football but never on an equivalent scale, and I've been to literally hundreds of matches over the decades and rarely seen any trouble.

The first and last time I went to the Notting Hill Carnival was 1999, and the second my sister and I arrived, a guy swung around out of nowhere and punched me hard in the stomach. Absolutely unprovoked. We'd literally just arrived and were chatting quietly.

So as far as I'm concerned, the carnival can get to fuck.

Football is a ticketed event, carnival is not. Football fans are coralled and marshalled into their seats.

Maybe carnival goers can say the same about you.

TheHateIsNotGood · 01/09/2026 13:40

For 2 million people the number of arrests are quite low and just as described in previous posts just imagine how many arrests there would be if 2 million football fans were in a predefined and confined space. A lot more.

Additionally, 60+ of the arrests were due to 'facial recognition tech' and this knowledge might actually put off those with criminal 'tendencies' from attending future Carnivals.

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 01/09/2026 13:40

Is there a way to reduce Anti social behavior and crime without stopping it altogether?

Of the arrests this year nearly 200 were people who were arrested BEFORE they even got to Carnival or had committed a crime - people identified as troublemakers using facial recognition before they even got there. Not people who were arrested for crimes actually at Carnival - but are included in the numbers.

The police also used to put orders on gang members on Brixton preventing them from travelling on Carnival weekend.

And - there really wasn't that much crime this weekend, given the numbers and that it is a free unticketed event,

It is just ongoing cant and stereotype fuelling the outrage.

Whosthetabbynow · 01/09/2026 13:41

helpfulperson · 01/09/2026 10:50

The Reading Festival is pretty horrendous as well. Football matches too. Anywhere that involves large groups of people will be.

Oasis at Wembley last year wasn’t “horrendous”. In fact it was a perfect example of how kind and generous people can be to each other.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 01/09/2026 13:43

I do think it should be moved, but with something symbolic at the same time at Notting hill to retain the historic link , so it’s not seen as being evicted from the area, but also accept its grown to such a scale it now deserves a location where it can be held safely.

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 01/09/2026 13:43

nomas · 01/09/2026 13:38

Yep, but it must be banned because of the opinions of people who mainly don't even live in the area,

Or went once and didn't like it

But apparently their views matter more than the 2 million who go and love it.

TVonyable · 01/09/2026 13:44

I lived in London for years, when I lived near by (Holland Park) I went to carnival, walking distance, it was awful, I got caught up in a fight, nothing to do with me, I was running away and was hit with a large glass bottle.

No toilets, people selling drugs, just awful. My friends who still live local go on holiday

Another2Cats · 01/09/2026 13:45

Mrssnips · 01/09/2026 12:42

169 arrests according to the police which is less per capita attending than the Unite the Kingdom rally. But lets not allow the facts to get in the way of bigotry.

"But lets not allow the facts to get in the way of bigotry."

Yes, let's not.

Here is a statement from the Met police put out this morning. There were 443 arrests at the event and 193 arrests on the approaches to the event for a total of 636 arrests

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News — 1 September 2026 10:10

UPDATE: Notting Hill Carnival policing operation

Final update - Tuesday 1 September

The total number of arrests as part of the Notting Hill Carnival policing operation this year has been confirmed as 636.

242 arrests took place on Sunday and 394 on Monday.

193 arrests took place on the approaches to the event, with the remainder taking place within the event footprint.

Offences included possession and supply of drugs, assaults (including assaults on emergency workers), possession of weapons, sexual offences and public order offences.

The use of live facial recognition technology was expanded this year, leading to 214 alerts, 121 arrests and 86 registered sex offenders being stopped and spoken to. Seven registered sex offenders were found to be breaching their conditions or notification requirements and were arrested.

Stop and search was used extensively as part of the proactive policing approach. It resulted in 68 weapons, including a handgun, being found.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/met-sets-out-policing-plan-ahead-of-60th-annual-notting-hill-carnival-512269

UPDATE: Notting Hill Carnival policing operation

We're working to keep the majority safe by targeting the minority coming to do harm.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/met-sets-out-policing-plan-ahead-of-60th-annual-notting-hill-carnival-512269

Whammyammy · 01/09/2026 13:49

We call it stabfest

Friendlygingercat · 01/09/2026 13:49

We have a ethnic large carnival which takes up an entire weekend and is in a park about a mile from me. For years the nearby residents have been petitioning the council to restrict the noise and the hours. Now they have finally done so the action just moves to nearby streets where there are fights and stabbings. The noise is such that you can hear it above the TV with both doors and windows closed and even ear plugs in. I always go and stay with a relative for that weekend. I feel I am being driven out of my home for the sake of other people's so called "music".

nomas · 01/09/2026 13:50

LondonLass2026 · 01/09/2026 13:38

636 arrests. I don't recall the equivalent percentage ever happening at football. Yes sometimes things happen at football but never on an equivalent scale, and I've been to literally hundreds of matches over the decades and rarely seen any trouble.

The first and last time I went to the Notting Hill Carnival was 1999, and the second my sister and I arrived, a guy swung around out of nowhere and punched me hard in the stomach. Absolutely unprovoked. We'd literally just arrived and were chatting quietly.

So as far as I'm concerned, the carnival can get to fuck.

There were 1,963 football related arrests in 2025-2026.

GoodkneeBadKnee · 01/09/2026 13:50

JHound · 01/09/2026 12:45

“ProudBlackMomma” posts have a theme I have observed.

Yup. "Proud Black Momma"...lol

GoodkneeBadKnee · 01/09/2026 13:53

Whammyammy · 01/09/2026 13:49

We call it stabfest

Hilarious.

Another2Cats · 01/09/2026 13:54

Backedoffhackedoff · 01/09/2026 13:00

I don’t think these comparisons are valid.

NHC has police everywhere- police that have become absolute experts in this event. They make extensive use of facial recognition technology.
They have a pretty zero tolerance approach to known trouble makers and there are areas where people are extensively searched.
zThe last few years the met has been praised for doing this in a less intrusive way (so as not to distract from the actual carnival) and a lot more proactively. There were 7000 officers at NHc

I've checked and at Glastonbury there were 837 officers deployed. Reading- TVp don’t release the numbers they deploy. Leeds festival deployed 705 officers.

so c10% of the number of officers at Semitic festivals vs NHC.
You have to think, if you have 7000 police officers proactively watching and searching people, using facial recognition technology to identify known and wanted criminals, there WILL be more arrests. that doesn’t inherently make it more criminal, more violent or worse behaved.

In the other festivals you are left alone unless some action triggers the police attending you.

"so c10% of the number of officers at Semitic festivals "

I'm sorry, but what?

What exactly are "Semitic" festivals?

I think one of the big differences between Notting Hill and other festivals is the presence of weapons. The police themselves said of this year's carnival that

"Stop and search was used extensively as part of the proactive policing approach. It resulted in 68 weapons, including a handgun, being found."

Nobody is going to Glastonbury or Download with a machete or a handgun.

Backedoffhackedoff · 01/09/2026 13:57

Another2Cats · 01/09/2026 13:54

"so c10% of the number of officers at Semitic festivals "

I'm sorry, but what?

What exactly are "Semitic" festivals?

I think one of the big differences between Notting Hill and other festivals is the presence of weapons. The police themselves said of this year's carnival that

"Stop and search was used extensively as part of the proactive policing approach. It resulted in 68 weapons, including a handgun, being found."

Nobody is going to Glastonbury or Download with a machete or a handgun.

It’s an autocorrect/ typo- it’s supposed to say music.

Treetreetreetree · 01/09/2026 13:57

No because I’m not a big racist mupoet. Arrests were down.
You should see how football fans can behave.
Lewd behaviour! What is this 1882

Whosthetabbynow · 01/09/2026 14:03

Tell me how many guns are found on football fans. What a ridiculous attempt at correlation

LauritaEvita · 01/09/2026 14:06

HoppityBun · 01/09/2026 13:09

I used to live in the Notting Hill carnival zone and it was an absolute misery. Each year it got bigger and bigger and louder and louder. Elderly people in care homes were literally bussed out for days at the seaside. For weeks beforehand barricades go up in front of council flats, portable loos and portable urinals line the streets and shop windows are boarded up. Everywhere is used as a toilet even though there are plenty of portable public loos because there are just too many people.

The chief executive of Kensington & Chelsea * once said to me “well you knew what it was like when you moved here“. Well, I didn’t, actually because when I moved there, it was quite low-key. The sound of the police helicopter overhead, the smell of the cooking, the crowds who just don’t give a damn that this is where you live, the enormous speakers that are stacked on top of each other, so you’re in your living room and you can’t hear the radio or television but you can feel the thump in your chest, ruin the last bank holiday of the year. It’s bloody awful.

Many years ago there was a letter in The Guardian, and I’m talking about 40 years ago, from a woman who said that despite the multicultural origins that are claimed for it. She and her neighbours had lived in Powys Terrace and they started it for their children who had nothing to do over the summer. But I dare say she’s dead and nobody gives a shit now how or why it really started. There was a plan to move it to the parks that was resisted, quite rightly. I just can’t see it ever ending. It’s an imposition on the people who live there who, I would like to inform anyone who doesn’t know the area, are not all rich people living in white stucco three million pound houses.

  • he, of course, did not live in the carnival zone. In fact, I’d known him in a previous job and he was a reasonable man but that was an unreasonable comment..
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It sounds absolutely appalling. Feel sorry for everyone that’s expected to just put up with it. Really hate the ‘well you shouldn’t have moved here’ line as though people should just accept danger and vandalism as the norm.

No matter if people have lived there for decades or have just moved in and whether they live in a millionaire’s home or a more ordinary dwelling, nobody should have to put up with what you’re describing all in the name of someone else’s ‘fun’.

Dollymylove · 01/09/2026 14:07

I better guy whose burger was burnt to a crisp wasnt over impressed 😤

EasternStandard · 01/09/2026 14:10

dustabsorber · 01/09/2026 13:07

Time to move it to somewhere like Brockwell Park. Put up fences and charge everyone 50 quid to come in.

I’m not sure Brockwell Park area would say yes.

Dappy777 · 01/09/2026 14:10

It means absolutely nothing to me. It isn’t my culture at all. My culture is Chaucer, Shakespeare, Wordsworth, Keats, Jane Austen, George Eliot, Dickens, Wilfred Owen, Virginia Woolf, Aldous Huxley, P G Wodehouse, Monty Python, Philip Larkin, etc.

The left have been doing all they can to IMPOSE a new identity on me, but I will fight them to my last breath. In 1997, a speechwriter for Blair said the plan was “to rub the right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.” And that is still the plan. But I will resist to the end. I don’t need or want a new culture. I’ve already got one.

Dweetfidilove · 01/09/2026 14:11

Whammyammy · 01/09/2026 13:49

We call it stabfest

Funny!

The summer provides all kinds of fests, I suppose:
Stabfest
Rapefest
Cokefest
Burn communities down fest
All sorts really.

They beauty of multicultural Britain is that there's something for everyone.

LauritaEvita · 01/09/2026 14:14

Dweetfidilove · 01/09/2026 13:12

They don't, but my cousin used to get police leaflets about moving her car and pretty much any moveable exposed property when the hooligans from some of the clubs visited her locality.
Police would then line the streets from the stadium into the train station.

It’s not even vaguely comparable. Life just carries on as normal when there are matches or concerts on. The council give out residents’ parking permits so we can do literally the opposite of what your cousin was advised to do and park by the grounds on match days. There’s no way you’d get all the residents to move their cars and they don’t need to in the first place. It’s a bizarre comparison from people who I suspect have neither been to NH carnival or to a footy match.

Rothburypixie · 01/09/2026 14:14

Dappy777 · 01/09/2026 14:10

It means absolutely nothing to me. It isn’t my culture at all. My culture is Chaucer, Shakespeare, Wordsworth, Keats, Jane Austen, George Eliot, Dickens, Wilfred Owen, Virginia Woolf, Aldous Huxley, P G Wodehouse, Monty Python, Philip Larkin, etc.

The left have been doing all they can to IMPOSE a new identity on me, but I will fight them to my last breath. In 1997, a speechwriter for Blair said the plan was “to rub the right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.” And that is still the plan. But I will resist to the end. I don’t need or want a new culture. I’ve already got one.

Are you quite well?