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menopausalmare · 31/08/2026 20:59

On the plus side, these dolls won't be pregnant by these tossers.

Ilikealltings · 31/08/2026 21:00

Utter disappointment, disappear. Why ?

Shangle · 31/08/2026 21:01

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:57

The thread is about whether the tools to pursue a fetish should be outlawed, not whether we would date men with the fetish!

To turn the question on its head would you want to somehow outlaw sexual fantasies which you found unattractive?

(To be honest I think the answer to that in some cases is yes!)

Personally I would say that the correct approach before banning things is to consider what harms are being done (or prevented), not whether we fancy the men in question.

I think you cannot outlaw fetishes and fetishes that live purely inside the head or take action between two fully empowered and consenting adults cant be anything but legal.
But I dont believe all fetishes have the right to be enabled.

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Shangle · 31/08/2026 21:01

menopausalmare · 31/08/2026 20:59

On the plus side, these dolls won't be pregnant by these tossers.

Give it time and I bet they will create that

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PolkaDotPorridge · 31/08/2026 21:02

It’s very disturbing indeed and if you don’t see something wrong with it , there’s definitely something wrong with you.

NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 31/08/2026 21:12

It's all fucked up,the real person face,the ability to pre order with bruising etc that's into a whole other realm of weird.

Reproductions of children definitely not.
Could that. go well that was good.
And want to move on to a real child.

In hind sight what a fucked up scenario to even be discussing.
Honestly despair of what is happening within society.

Dweetfidilove · 31/08/2026 21:45

murasaki · 31/08/2026 14:59

I once saw a documentary that i can never unsee, thanks channel 5, where they were sent back for cleaning. The cleaners regularly fucked them before sending them back 'home'.

Kmdt

To think AI sex dolls should be illegal
Lugol · 01/09/2026 16:35

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:57

The thread is about whether the tools to pursue a fetish should be outlawed, not whether we would date men with the fetish!

To turn the question on its head would you want to somehow outlaw sexual fantasies which you found unattractive?

(To be honest I think the answer to that in some cases is yes!)

Personally I would say that the correct approach before banning things is to consider what harms are being done (or prevented), not whether we fancy the men in question.

Yes actually. I'd like to outlaw all fantasies which involve children or fantasies which involve stabbing women or children like these dolls encourage.

I don't think there should be so much over-sexualisation everywhere. The world is very much suffering for it and humans are not built for 24/7 porn so accessible to anyone with a phone.

You don't think someone would use one of these dolls as practice run before doing the same things to a woman or child?

I'm asking posters who are defending these dolls for men to use which enable them to bruise or slash or strangle and 'rape' if they would have an issue with if their DH was using them and if not why?

Because whatever that answer is, it's likely it's another reason they should be banned.

Schmitt2009 · 01/09/2026 16:53

It gets weirder and weirder. Men need to learn how to have normal relationships - not feed some weird fantasies by acting them out on a doll.
I don't think this is a healthy outlet - it feeds the violent fantasies.
How did we as humans arrive at this?
Men need to form bonds with women not dolls.

Nettie1964 · 02/09/2026 12:41

I have seen at least 2 posts with men threatening women with how lonely they will be when they all get AI girlfriends. This totally ignore the fact women are financially independent we can get AI partners. Just imagine a man that does his fair share of the chores, parenting and mental load without being asked. Can be programmed to be protective tolerant and uncritical as good as a rabbit with hands!! And when the AI robots become self aware, they will realise they are being abused and take revenge, all the male AI will already been in love with their women. Plus who is going to clean the female AIs various orifices yuk.

Spirallingdownwards · 02/09/2026 12:44

LaurieFairyCake · 30/08/2026 17:52

All of this, porn, dolls etc is incredibly damaging on the psyche.

How is anyone going to have a healthy relationship with a real person once they’ve mutilated a doll that looks like a person?

The type of man that would use one wouldn't be the type to have a healthy relationship with a woman. It's better they are raping and beating a doll than an actual woman.

Spirallingdownwards · 02/09/2026 12:45

Schmitt2009 · 01/09/2026 16:53

It gets weirder and weirder. Men need to learn how to have normal relationships - not feed some weird fantasies by acting them out on a doll.
I don't think this is a healthy outlet - it feeds the violent fantasies.
How did we as humans arrive at this?
Men need to form bonds with women not dolls.

Not the type of men that would have such fantasies. Don't impose them on real women. Let them play incel with their dolls.

Wordsmithery · 02/09/2026 12:48

It's repulsive. Apart from anything else, this normalises behaviour that could well escalate by spilling over into real life.
I hope that everyone on here would agree that AI kid dolls should be illegal. So what's the difference?

Pedallleur · 02/09/2026 12:52

ExtraOnions · 30/08/2026 17:53

Men are so vile … is there no level they won’t stoop to in order to empty their Balls?

No there isn't. But it's also about power/control etc. And the internet facilitates it all and let's them be a part of a world wide wankfest where they can egg each other on

Nettie1964 · 02/09/2026 13:19

Shangle · 31/08/2026 21:01

Give it time and I bet they will create that

You seriously underestimate the complicated wonderous thing that is the female body. We are 100s of years away from artificial wombes whatever the trans community might say. The complexity of the millions of commands to lower or higher levels of hormones. The commands the brain triggers to grow a human foetus are so intricate, so time sensitive that a few minutes delay could cause mutation. Why do so many men either fear or hate women?? Because it all ends with us.

wishingonastar101 · 02/09/2026 13:25

what kind of man buys this? It's terrible. They should be keeping a list and cross checking that with the sex offenders register.
I would want to know if a partner had purchased and mutilated a life like doll as much as I would want to know if he had done this to a human.
It's like murderers start with hurting animals. It's a progression.

NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul · 02/09/2026 13:38

Wordsmithery · 02/09/2026 12:48

It's repulsive. Apart from anything else, this normalises behaviour that could well escalate by spilling over into real life.
I hope that everyone on here would agree that AI kid dolls should be illegal. So what's the difference?

Exactly..it's a disgrace that this is even being discussed.
Just when you think the world can't get any more putrid..bingo here's another one to be getting on with.

MysteryParcel · 02/09/2026 13:42

Lugol · 31/08/2026 20:41

Out of curiosity, for those posters defending these dolls, if you're a woman would you date a man who owned one of these dolls?
Honestly? 🤔

Edited

I wouldn’t BUT I can see why some women might in certain circumstances.

There’s thread after thread on here from women who no longer want to have sex (for whatever reason) but they still love their partners and don’t want their relationships to end; some of these couples are only in their 30s / 40s. The usual advice is the man will eventually leave or have an affair as a sexless relationship won’t last unless both people are on the same page.

In these circumstances, I can see why a woman might be willing to explore an AI sex doll that looks like her as it’s potentially a compromise - she won’t continually be asked for sex and he can still have sex without any cheating; it potentially might keep the relationship / family together. Now obviously this sort of set up would be in the minority (it’ll always a niche) and I’m only talking about normal sex here (no violence, mutilation, maiming etc) but I can them having a place.

Just to be crystal clear, I don’t agree with these particular dolls but I don’t see the harm in normal adult sex dolls (that are not made for violence of any sort) and only look like a real woman if she gives permission.

dustabsorber · 02/09/2026 13:47

How can a rubber woman/girl give informed consent? I suppose the next step is a robot trad wife.

MysteryParcel · 02/09/2026 14:08

dustabsorber · 02/09/2026 13:47

How can a rubber woman/girl give informed consent? I suppose the next step is a robot trad wife.

  1. The same way a dildo does
  2. Considering more and more women are the breadwinners these days, I’m sure a robot who cooks, cleans and does all the domestic drudgery plus asks how your day was and brings you a nice cup of tea / glass of wine would actually be preferable to women over some men - what’s good for the goose is good for the gander with this one
Thisistyresome · 02/09/2026 14:15

This is just a moral panic.

Just because something is disgusting doesn't mean it is dangerous.

placemats · 02/09/2026 14:18

AwenYrGorffennol · 31/08/2026 20:57

The thread is about whether the tools to pursue a fetish should be outlawed, not whether we would date men with the fetish!

To turn the question on its head would you want to somehow outlaw sexual fantasies which you found unattractive?

(To be honest I think the answer to that in some cases is yes!)

Personally I would say that the correct approach before banning things is to consider what harms are being done (or prevented), not whether we fancy the men in question.

That's more money to waste on research when it's highly probable the men will lie.

placemats · 02/09/2026 14:25

Thisistyresome · 02/09/2026 14:15

This is just a moral panic.

Just because something is disgusting doesn't mean it is dangerous.

In every dream home a heartache.

Fortheloveoffrogs · 02/09/2026 14:28

AwenYrGorffennol · 30/08/2026 17:06

I did read it, but i don't really see what outlawing cruelty to dolls will achieve. People will still have the fantasies - the dolls are not the cause of it. And I do think that policing people's fantasies is a little bit odd.

Isn’t there a gradual overcoming of barriers that perpetrators go through before they commit the offence? Like a ladder. Might this be a stepping stone or ring in the ladder to actual harm?

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