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Is my maths wrong? (Shop refund)

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GertysBestShoes · Today 13:17

Big supermarket near me, closed off its changing rooms during COVID. Went in to buy something important that needs to fit correctly (swimming costume for a pool party booked the next day).

I asked a staff member near the clothing if the changing room was open any more, she confirmed no (I think they're now used as stock storage, you basically can't get beyond any barrier at the entrance). She advised of a 100 day refund policy and confirmed if was okay to buy a few, try them on that day, then refund (with all labels and hangers) the same day.

Bought a few costumes in different sizes (size 12, 14 and 2 different style 16s) along with my £20 ISH food shopping. Paid on a credit card and some vouchers I'd got (think something like clubcard voucher or Asda rewards, a specific £value). Total was £69.

Went back within thr hour (hurrah, 1 costume fitted) and attempted the return at customer service desk. 3 returns to process.

They were:
£9 costume on sale
£10
£20

I expect a £39 refund.

The customer service rep says it is a £39.43 refund that I'm entitled to, because I used a £1 voucher it influenced the refund value as it applies to the costume too.

I asked if the 57p will go back onto my loyalty voucher value, she said no.

What would you have done in that situation? What's a reasonable refund value?

A - be happy with £38.43
B - er, you returned £39 of goods so they need to make it right to £39 value even if it's on a gift card
C - £39.43 refund due back.

I won't drip feed, I'll share here that the customer service desk lady insisted on A. I insisted on B and asked to speak to a manager. Management was called who tried to give me a £38.43 credit card refund then give me a £1 gift card (which I explained was too much).

Aibu?

OP posts:
luckylavender · Today 14:34

Howmanycatsistoomany · Today 13:53

I'm with you OP, I'd expect the full £39 to be refunded. And I'd have insisted too😝

But you wouldn’t have got it

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:36

Bought £69 of swimwear to try at home because there was no changing room in the supermarket.
Returned £39 worth
and the supermarket is only refunding £38.43

was the many other paragraphs REALLY necessary?

Yes, I would complain because I expect £39. They can't randomly keep some money 😂

Shops often charge a "handling fee" and keep a few pounds, but it's made clear when you purchase the item. Your choice.

I don't care about 50p, but it's the principle.

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:38

Crunchymum · Today 14:25

If this large supermarket is doing this kind of rounding down on refunds to all their clients they'll be making a fucking fortune.

I'd have queried it too.

If I was 57p short would Sainsburys just "let me off" ?

I'm surprised it's happened though as usually everything is so automated these days the refund would have automatically given the OP the correct amount / calculated what needed to go back to voucher amount etc.

Edited

exactly

what's next? you pay cash, wait for your change and they keep some just because?
People get really irate when local petrol shops and corner shops do that. And rightly so.

You can't just randomly change the amounts you refund😂
Handling fees are clear and not random.

Fluffyscrubberdo · Today 14:40

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:36

Bought £69 of swimwear to try at home because there was no changing room in the supermarket.
Returned £39 worth
and the supermarket is only refunding £38.43

was the many other paragraphs REALLY necessary?

Yes, I would complain because I expect £39. They can't randomly keep some money 😂

Shops often charge a "handling fee" and keep a few pounds, but it's made clear when you purchase the item. Your choice.

I don't care about 50p, but it's the principle.

Reading the rest of the post is important because it wasn’t random.

PrettyLittleRose · Today 14:40

luckylavender · Today 14:34

But you wouldn’t have got it

This. ^ I thought - to start with - that the OP had been ripped off for about a tenner or something. The fact it's pennies, and she's not even entitled to it - is both hilarious and ludicrous in equal measures!

DeterminedRat · Today 14:45

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:38

exactly

what's next? you pay cash, wait for your change and they keep some just because?
People get really irate when local petrol shops and corner shops do that. And rightly so.

You can't just randomly change the amounts you refund😂
Handling fees are clear and not random.

what's next? you pay cash, wait for your change and they keep some just because?

In Ireland this is normal. We have 'rounding' where cash totals are rounded to the nearest 5c.

dnadiscoveryquery · Today 14:47

The fact you even made a post about this is insane, let alone wasting everyone’s time in the shop.

The discounted amount with loyalty stuff makes sense. Just move on.

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:48

Fluffyscrubberdo · Today 14:40

Reading the rest of the post is important because it wasn’t random.

I read

I would complain because the shop can't decide to change the rules.

£1 voucher it influenced the refund value as it applies to the costume too.
where does it state if you return items bought with vouchers, you lose the money?

Springsummertime · Today 14:50

Just enjoy your weekend and dont give it a second thought!

Fluffyscrubberdo · Today 14:50

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:48

I read

I would complain because the shop can't decide to change the rules.

£1 voucher it influenced the refund value as it applies to the costume too.
where does it state if you return items bought with vouchers, you lose the money?

It wasn’t a gift voucher paid with cash, it was a loyalty coupon which is stated in the context of the post.
What rules do you think exist for this? It’s not a law, of course the shop can set their own policy for dealing with money off coupons.

Bonsaibaby · Today 14:54

I got £18 off for spending over £120. The receipt showed a percentage was taken off each item rather than the total at the end. So you probably evened out anyway but I would have taken the gift card

TheChosenTwo · Today 14:55

All of this drama over 57p?? 😱
Jesus I left £7 in unreturned change from M&S when I put in £20 to pay for something that was £13 and it didn’t give me any change back. It was lunchtime, I couldn’t hang around for long, the guy in the self service couldn’t fix it and he got a colleague who also couldn’t fathom how to give me my change so I just said forget it, I’m in a rush, and off I went,
I literally cannot believe that op is being so uppity about 57p. I’m not so rich that I wipe my arse with £50 notes but I don’t need to quibble about 57p and for that I’m truly thankful for the peace it brings.

JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · Today 14:56

If it was £57 I'd be aggrieved
57p really wouldn't give a fuck and couldn't be arsed waiting for duty manager etc for 57p.

ThreeplusI · Today 14:57

GertysBestShoes · Today 13:17

Big supermarket near me, closed off its changing rooms during COVID. Went in to buy something important that needs to fit correctly (swimming costume for a pool party booked the next day).

I asked a staff member near the clothing if the changing room was open any more, she confirmed no (I think they're now used as stock storage, you basically can't get beyond any barrier at the entrance). She advised of a 100 day refund policy and confirmed if was okay to buy a few, try them on that day, then refund (with all labels and hangers) the same day.

Bought a few costumes in different sizes (size 12, 14 and 2 different style 16s) along with my £20 ISH food shopping. Paid on a credit card and some vouchers I'd got (think something like clubcard voucher or Asda rewards, a specific £value). Total was £69.

Went back within thr hour (hurrah, 1 costume fitted) and attempted the return at customer service desk. 3 returns to process.

They were:
£9 costume on sale
£10
£20

I expect a £39 refund.

The customer service rep says it is a £39.43 refund that I'm entitled to, because I used a £1 voucher it influenced the refund value as it applies to the costume too.

I asked if the 57p will go back onto my loyalty voucher value, she said no.

What would you have done in that situation? What's a reasonable refund value?

A - be happy with £38.43
B - er, you returned £39 of goods so they need to make it right to £39 value even if it's on a gift card
C - £39.43 refund due back.

I won't drip feed, I'll share here that the customer service desk lady insisted on A. I insisted on B and asked to speak to a manager. Management was called who tried to give me a £38.43 credit card refund then give me a £1 gift card (which I explained was too much).

Aibu?

I'm assuming you've made a typing error, because you seem to be getting a refund for more than you were due. If you used a voucher the EPOS would have divided that between all your purchases and taking off a percentage of the items you were returning. If you wanted £39 back, you should have bought the potential returns separately.

BotterMon · Today 15:03

I'm surprised they let you return swim wear that you'd taken out of the store and tried on at home. That's quite gross. You can't do it with underwear so why is swim wear different.

Oh and YAB ridiculous about a few pence.

Horses7 · Today 15:05

Biggest non issue of the day - enjoy your pool party!

DandelionClockSeeds · Today 15:09

Tesco would have done the same - spread the £1 voucher proportionally over each item, so they would have given you the £38.43 as well.

Moral: dont use discount vouchers when you might return stuff!

Tryagain26 · Today 15:19

£38. 43 is correct and I would have accepted that because that's what you paid using the voucher. Which is really just a discount voucher, if you buy something using a discount voucher and then take that thing back you get back what you paid. You don't then get the discount voucher again to use against something else

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Tryagain26 · Today 15:20

Tryagain26 · Today 15:19

£38. 43 is correct and I would have accepted that because that's what you paid using the voucher. Which is really just a discount voucher, if you buy something using a discount voucher and then take that thing back you get back what you paid. You don't then get the discount voucher again to use against something else

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Iwantanothergo · Today 15:24

MayaPyjama · Today 13:31

Are your numbers in the post right?

I think not.

katepilar · Today 15:36

I think you mistyped and said they told you its 39.43 and you wanted to say 38.43 and its confusing.

And yes, I do understand you didnt want to leave 57p behind. If I had the strenght and mood I would do the same. Ona a bad day I would leave it.

Blossom1818 · Today 15:43

I dont know, but I had a couple of drinks last night and reading this has made my head worse. I cant believe you called a manager over this. Enjoy your party

ColdAsAWitches · Today 15:45

Hecksonaplane · Today 14:13

I’d be a bit peeved too as they’re a massive company and how many times do they do this to people and it all adds up - it’s funny how these things don’t go in the customer’s favour

Well they do. The manager tried to give her a £1 voucher instead of 57p, only the OP complained about that too!

MayaPyjama · Today 15:46

Iwantanothergo · Today 15:24

I think not.

I expect a £39 refund.
The customer service rep says it is a £39.43 refund that I'm entitled to

Why didn’t the OP just take the £39.43 refund then? If she was so precious she could’ve donated the extra 43p she was profiting?

TheFormerMrsTruelove · Today 15:54

Management was called who tried to give me a £38.43 credit card refund then give me a £1 gift card (which I explained was too much) You seriously turned down a £1 gift card because it would mean they’d given you too much of a refund? Have I understood that correctly? I think I have, but I cannot imagine that anyone would be that intent on making themselves that much of a giant pain in the arse, so I must have misunderstood.

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