One to one benefit assessments

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It would save money in the long run if all benefits claims had to be assessed one to one, surely?

Benefits haven’t grown though. They’re representing the % of GPD as they always gave first about 20 years.

Face to face 1:1 assessments for every single benefit (including child benefit and state pension) would be most of the population and cost a massive amount of money.

in addition are you suggesting that there be a face to face 1:1 for every change in universal credit? That’s a lot of people and a lot of money.

Why did you decide to start this thread?

Yes, that's called living in a society that cares about its citizens.
Do you think disabled people should just be left with no income and potentially homeless?

People who truly need support should get it and in person assessments will make sure that they do.
Those who don’t need the benefits will be weeded out and that will save money.

Absolute rubbish. I'll wager my 15 years WB experience against your nonsense. Back it up with your sources? Your research? Waiting.

People who needed benefits would continue to get them with in person assessments.

I’m interested in thinking of ways to help the country economically and I’m a bit bored.

This is where you need an understanding of the system to understand the headline figures.

Of course those who have had paper based assessments have a higher eligibility percentage than those who have had other types of assessments (which also include a written form for most - there are a very small minority whose asses sent continues even if they don’t return the form). Paper based assessments are undertaken for those who are claiming under the special rules, when there is really strong evidence supporting the claim (and sometimes where professionals involved with the claimant have been contacted for further evidence) &/or where there are risks associated with undertaking other types of assessments. They are mostly those with complex &/or significant disabilities. Having these have F2F assessments won’t suddenly make them not eligible.

Why does your title and OP say one to one when you actually go on to talk about F2F? They are two different things.

Why does your title and OP say benefits as in benefits in general when you seem to actually mean disability benefits in particular.

My goodness you really are talking utter nonsense now.

But how does having race to face appointments means you’ll get what you’re describing?
Do you think disability is always visible so you just have to look at f to know???

Do you know anything about pip assessments? It relies on doctors notes and letters which detail the health conditions, from an in-person assessment by said doctor.
I sure hope you never have to claim pip tbh, and I hate to tell you that you're only one accident or illness away from being disabled.
You just started this thread to stir up hatred of disabled people yet again. We don't accept ageism or sexism on this forum but disability discrimination is fine is it?
Your attitude stinks

Tell me you know nothing about pip without telling me

64% of people go to tribunal and win. All the assessment is doing is trying to catch people out

😂😂😂

Op needs a damn hobby that doesn't involve stewing in their own prejudices.

You're bored? I have several terminally ill clients on benefits who aren't bored. Also many with such restrictive LT conditions they have no control over their bodily function. They're too busy wondering either how long they have left, or if they can continue to have any quality of life even the non-terminal, when they need help with the smallest tasks. And don't pop in with "I didn't mean them."
Bored, indeed.

But the potential savings outweigh the extra costs.

This. I spend most of my working hours preparing for and supporting at tribunals for this very reason.

What you actually mean is - I’m a bit bored so thought I would start a benefit bashing thread.

People already have to fill in the forms, submit the evidence and undertake an assessment, either by phone or face to face.

The assessment is NOT a medical assessment, they just ask questions about how your condition affects your day-to-day functioning. They ask the same questions regardless of which type of assessment you have.

How do you think that people will be ‘caught out’ if they’re face to face rather than be asked the same questions over the phone?

Rubbish. Where is your analysis? Where is your thoroughly researched and fully costed report proving this?

data for this..

Ok so im.currently doing my sons PIP form
Hes severley autistic with severe learning disabillties and cant speak at all and can only communicate on a very bsdic level to what purpose do you think him being seen face to face would serve ?
His needs are ver very obvious

Only because you’re just assuming that the paper ones aren’t valid applications when the reality is that these are the most valid ones.

Because If claimants are already currently waiting 6 months just for a review, who is going to do the assessments? Are the tens of thousands of assessors needed to reduce those waits going to work for free?