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Kier and Kemi showed the best of British politics today

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thefireinyourheart · 15/07/2026 19:53

I do miss the days that every political interaction was like that. We’ve become so nasty in politics these days, it’s nice to see some mutual respect again.

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EarthlyNightshade · 16/07/2026 14:47

EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 14:07

Not sure about left I don’t think it’ll work but I listened to AB’s speeches and already appreciate a shift in tone. His words are right, but whether that’s pre getting in or the desire to just tax people to anti growth again is still there idk.

He actually cited a conservative policy which he put forward in Manchester with success, he did not talk about inherited x or y or blame others.

I think he has a narrow path forward but perhaps he’ll do it. Or maybe he’ll struggle with his own MPs and policy, let’s see.

That's fair enough.
It's nice to see someone have something positive to say about the change rather than just hoping it will trigger an election.

I'm unsure but willing to give him a try (not much choice to anything else at this stage)

mateysmum · 16/07/2026 15:08

I disagree with Starmer's politics and I think he has failed as a PM in many ways, but I don't think he deserved to be stabbed in the back . I also think fundamentally that both he and Kemi are decent, intelligent human beings who want the best for the UK, but differ on how to achieve that. Yesterday's PMQ's showed that. I thought Kemi was respectful and amusing.

LuckyHazelFox · 16/07/2026 15:13

I'm watching yesterday's session for the first time. It was nice to see the joviality in the house, along with Starmer's accolades to his constituents. Badenoch did well in gently pushing her questions about Burnham. It was a 'leaving party' full of grace. He wasn't PM material but he gave it his best shot. I wish him well in the foreign arena.

gotmyselfintoapickle · 16/07/2026 15:24

It was nice to end on a warm note and I agree Kemi's was a good performance. I think you might be looking to the past through rise tinted glasses if you think PMQs was polite pre-brexit though!

PenelopeJoanSterling · 16/07/2026 18:17

LuckyHazelFox · 16/07/2026 09:57

She's not nasty, she's incisive and assertive.

plus when you swim with sharks what hope is there if your a fish so to speak

thefireinyourheart · 16/07/2026 19:04

I also quite like that all of Europe is happily showing how stupid we are, by laying praise on Starmer

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GotALionInMyPocket · 21/07/2026 08:11

nomas · 15/07/2026 20:01

Agreed. It’s quite distasteful, hounding people out for spurious reasons and then acting like you’re their friend or that you will miss them.

yup

nomas · 21/07/2026 09:52

thefireinyourheart · 16/07/2026 19:04

I also quite like that all of Europe is happily showing how stupid we are, by laying praise on Starmer

We are stupid, that’s for sure.

LagerLady · 21/07/2026 10:01

Why can't AI run the country? Ask a random, sample of citizens what they want. Generate a manifesto to maximise the fulfilment of the citizens wants. Then a plan to deliver the manifesto. Then get on with it.

TempestTost · 21/07/2026 10:37

Twiglets1 · 16/07/2026 06:52

It made me realise a lot of the horrible words they say to each other at PMQs is just theatre - I thought they really did hate each other!

I liked to see the more humorous, human side to Starmer, Badenoch and others.

I think a lot of people believe this.

I live in Canada. Years ago, when Stephen Harper was PM here, he had a sort of right-hand man who was known as his "attack-dog." He was always giving the bad news, making angry speeches in Parliament, was sort of a big angry looking guy like a bouncer.

He consistently won the vote among civil servants working in Parliament as the nicest MP. People were always surprised by that.

Similarly there are some very famous cross -arty friendships in the UK people are often surprised by.

Politically tribal citizens are often much less likely to talk to people of other persuasions than actual politicians.

GotALionInMyPocket · 22/07/2026 18:47

LagerLady · 21/07/2026 10:01

Why can't AI run the country? Ask a random, sample of citizens what they want. Generate a manifesto to maximise the fulfilment of the citizens wants. Then a plan to deliver the manifesto. Then get on with it.

Jeeesus.

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