AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

So what "culture" was Amy Winehouse? Seemed like a pure London lass to me. Are you othering her?

My Aunt has lived in London for 59 years, her husband is dead, all her neighbours are gone, she hates it now. People in London do notice.

Who knows what crimes they have committed in their own countries.
I would seriously consider moving.

But it isn’t affecting you, it is affecting the OP.
Do you think the OP should not be allowed to start a post because “diversity is our strength” in this instance.

Jews are now being used as props for this argument? You know exactly what the poster means by failed multiculturalism. It's never made in reference to all Muslims but extremists who have taken advantage.

What are your problems with multiculturalism?

@whoopsnomore they need far more than skills training.
They need an in depth education on our way of life here and the freedom's we all enjoy. They need to be educated that we are a liberal country but that doesn't mean liberal as in all the women can be touched and raped.

How does one teach out a life time of learning the exaxt opposite ?
Also where does this money come from to re educate them ? Arnt we already in crisis with our own education system ? Two tier life and people homeless from the UK because they have mental health issues we have no money to help with ?
I can't undertsnd any logic here ??

I very much like most aspects of British culture. That's why I moved here.

I don't understand how people are apparently so against antisemitism and yet feel comfortable to be openly against multiculturalism.

You don't understand how people can be against cultures where 10yo girls are forced to marry middle aged men and women are stoned to death for things Iike dating outside of their community? Hell, even in this country more than 50% of Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal.

Some cultures just do not blend well and it's unlikely to be anything but a disaster if huge numbers of men from barbaric societies are dumped here with minimal integration. How could it not be!

Am I "othering" Amy Winehouse 😂😂

It is very common for people, like my family, to consider themselves culturally Jewish without believing in God. Jews have a rich cultural history. You can both habe a Jewish cultural background and be a Londoner. What a weird thing to say.

Agree my friends in London have noted a massivr change also .

And this proves my point surely! Jews are proven to be successful in assimilating and integrating into western culture and generally don’t turn their community into ghettos.

Being anti multiculturalism means being against mixing of any cultures, no? Or just the ones you don't like?

Yes and on another thread people being told to work longer as there is no money to pay for their pensions in the future

It's never made in reference to all Muslims

Except it is. The millions of Muslims who simply live their lives and go about their business are generalised about.

Well you could put a few thousand asylum-seeking men around here in London and nobody would notice. They would not be visible in the streets. They would just blend in with the general population and have a better chance of finding work than in a tiny village.

Don't worry, they won't ALL be rapists, only some.

2bf, a lot of them will disappear into the London black market economy from the military bases never to be seen again.

I went to school in Easingwold, and if you are talking about Linton, OP, i can completely understand why you feel so upset. Its completely ridiculous. I live near an asylum hotel now and we have no trouble from any of the residents that im aware of, but this is in a major city so far more opportunities for the residents to find productive activities during the day. Given the limited bus services to York, if it goes ahead, i hope they are planning a programme of activities for the residents in the day. I wish you success in fighting it though.

Cologne Germany around 2016

Gang rapes and group assaults happen in India and Pakistan so often, they have a name for it. Tarrahrush I think

You can be against extremism without being against a whole culture.

What does 'pure' mean? White?

Because you can see the damage it's caused. It's to do with how people behave in society and the fabric of the nation.

Would you want to live in Bradford?

Gang rapes also have a name in the UK - gang rape. Is that also because they happen often?