AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

You're comparing war crimes in Syria and Sudan with Oxford St?

Oh please. Her community will be outnumbered. There will be over twice the amount of residents attempting to use the local services. Not to mention the groups of men hanging around with nothing to do but smoke/drink/look for trouble.

It happened at new year's Eve didn't it somewherenin Germany

I think it would be better if asylum seekers were accommodated in cities, too. I can see that it's cheaper to use redundant military facilities and similar sites, but the asylum seekers are more isolated, which isn't good for them OR the communities they're placed in or near.

How do these two things even relate to each other in your mind?!

People seeking asylum often dont have the option to use legal channels. If you are in fear of your life from a repressive regime, you can't really ask them to give you a visa. That's why the law accepts that it is NOT illegal to not have full legal documentation at the point of claiming asylum

For those who are genuinely escaping horrors this is perfectly true, and so it should be because it's only right that the UK does its share

Unfortunately, however, someone claiming that they fled because their father was shot, their mother raped and their siblings chucked down a well doesn't make it true - and yes I've seen scripts suggesting just those things and the chortling types who consider themselves terribly clever for encouraging it

The difficulty of course is sorting one group from the other, which isn't easy - but I'm not sure that leaving all to wander freely is any kind of answer

The frustrating thing is that the types of people who support this are usually the types who'll never accept any responsibility/culpability. They'll just say it was the government's fault for managing it badly when it finally dawns on them what a horrorshow the whole thing has become.

What I would also say is that for a small village this will likely bring a lot of money to your local shops, volunteers for local charity groups and probably new visitors to your local churches.

An Ethiopian asylum seeker/refugee was jailed last year for sexually assaulting a volunteer at a church social event.

What?

Say it louder for the virtue signallers at the back.

But just think of how many Doctors, Engineers, and Scientists will be among them and how much they will contribute to society

Bet you won't be saying that to your BAME neighbours / colleagues to their faces.

Same old two faced rhetoric.

Denmark is hardly handling mass immigration well, or they haven’t been. They are experiencing the same problems as Ireland and England. The country has changed drastically.
Even if we cannot deport the people already here, they have to stop this going forward.
The destabilisation of Europe is only going to get worse. Is there some secret money pot the government is receiving from allowing this
madness. I’ll believe these changes when they happen, for be it’s more distraction tactics.

And it's the Middle East where women were burned alive in cages.
And type in " man hacks women to death Nigeria" in to Google. Disgusting and alarming results.

Indeed it's become an entire industry hasn't it.

Also where are the women and children?

How many to you actually suppose get removed? They appeal and appeal and appeal.

Home Office figures show that only half of ALL asylum seekers refused asylum between 2010 and 2023 left the UK. So the other half are here still!

Even making a decision on asylum takes around 3 years!

Why do we even accept any asylum seekers given they have passed through safe countries first? They are just economic migrants. Not fleeing anything!

Judaism is a culture as well as a religion. And you're against multiculturalism.

Well, if I had been discussing those cases, then yes it would have been minimising. But I clearly wasn't, so dont be so manipulative.

Kemi speaks a lot of sense but I feel the situation is beyond politics now. What do you think?

They could easily accommodate these people in London and nobody would notice or give a hoot.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has no problem with a multi-ethnic society.

That's not the same as a multicultural one.

Maybe these people do want to work and contribute. But so do many people already here, who are desperately trying to find jobs! And get NHS treatment. We have a country where corridor treatment/leaving ill people in chairs in AE for days is normalised. It's not the fault of any asylum seeker, but there are already too many people for the jobs/services in your area OP, your view is understandable.

I think the government and previous ones are being really foolish, why don’t they ever put their own citizens first, I think eventually we will be conquered by the migrants and treated badly

No, I know you weren't saying that. I was responding to pp and saying that asking questions can be more effective that making statements. If you say you're worried they may be a danger, you may well dismissed, accused of generalising etc.
If you ask what steps they've taken to ensure they won't be a danger, they will have to answer you.
In all honesty I doubt you will stop it, so the aim of community action would be to try and ensure it was as well managed as possible with risk assessments and harm mitigation.

It is not race, it is culture; but also it is the sheer costs involved.

But additionally, it is extra people of any nation or colour wanting us to pay for their lives, forever and ever.
Hundreds of billions of pounds which we could use for our vulnerable old and sick, is instead diverted to pay for strange men who are young and healthy and should be providing for themselves in their own lands.