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Anyone else in the South East worried about Andy Burnham bringing in a land tax?

944 replies

Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:17

With it looking likely that Andy Burnhan will be the next PM, I was interested to see if anyone else in London / the south east were worried about potential tax raises specifically around the land tax rather than stamp duty ?

A lot of my friends who live locally are worrying that he will make the land tax for the South East so high in proportion to other areas of the UK that it will be financially very difficult to afford but then also extremely difficult to sell!!

BTW we have very standard house and garden but we live in an expensive area

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Marmalademorning · 30/06/2026 12:45

Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:25

Why would it be hilarious ?

All they are demonstrating with their ‘hilarious’ remark OP, is that Labour really is the party of spite and envy. They might laugh now, but all these policies will do is drive more and more people to vote for parties like Reform at the next GE. And it will serve them right.

Marmalademorning · 30/06/2026 12:48

poetryandwine · 29/06/2026 23:24

This poster is keenly aware that the Conservatives had 14 years to do better, and failed.

Well they did a lot better than the current shit show has.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 12:57

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 12:15

You don"t seriously think they can win a GE? Or do you mean favouring them with your vote? Smart conservatives IMO will defect to Reform, KB is good at talking but there is little substance there, all of it is just Reform policy.

With my vote

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 12:59

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 12:57

With my vote

Fair enough, wasted vote though really why not vote Reform and if it is bad, not sure it will be though, the Tories will be forced to get their act together to save us?

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 13:02

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 12:59

Fair enough, wasted vote though really why not vote Reform and if it is bad, not sure it will be though, the Tories will be forced to get their act together to save us?

That’s what I’m hoping re Tory policies
I will not vote Reform

HappenstanceMarmite · 30/06/2026 13:33

I still think it should be based on the number of adults living in a property. Why should a single person pay the same as a household with six (for eg), adults when the six household use 6 x the local facilities and resources? Could also include a sliding scale of property value into the formula 🤷🏻‍♀️

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 13:42

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 13:02

That’s what I’m hoping re Tory policies
I will not vote Reform

I will be running to the polling station to vote Reform, as I did for Brexit.

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 13:44

HappenstanceMarmite · 30/06/2026 13:33

I still think it should be based on the number of adults living in a property. Why should a single person pay the same as a household with six (for eg), adults when the six household use 6 x the local facilities and resources? Could also include a sliding scale of property value into the formula 🤷🏻‍♀️

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It should also be adjusted for household income.

poetryandwine · 30/06/2026 13:54

Scotiasdarling · 22/06/2026 17:12

Is this tax on top of council tax or instead of? Here in Wales our CT is already astronomical. We would never be able to sell our house of they slap this tax on top.

Instead of both council tax and stamp duty. Lots if currently untaxed land being held by builders would also be subject to LVT.

NorthXNorthWest · 30/06/2026 14:00

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 13:44

It should also be adjusted for household income.

I can't keep up with MN.

One minute, a single person living in a six-bedroom home is an "asset hoarder" who should be pressured into moving to free it up for a family.

The next minute, a six-bedroom home with every bedroom occupied should face higher taxes because it's a large property.

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 14:19

NorthXNorthWest · 30/06/2026 14:00

I can't keep up with MN.

One minute, a single person living in a six-bedroom home is an "asset hoarder" who should be pressured into moving to free it up for a family.

The next minute, a six-bedroom home with every bedroom occupied should face higher taxes because it's a large property.

If you don"t have an income, or a low income you won"t be able to pay the property tax, if there are two or three people earning in the house you will likely be able to pay the tax?

NorthXNorthWest · 30/06/2026 14:30

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 14:19

If you don"t have an income, or a low income you won"t be able to pay the property tax, if there are two or three people earning in the house you will likely be able to pay the tax?

If the aim is to tax the "wealthy" , then I suppose anyone living alone in a large home must now be considered wealthy. After all, we've apparently decided that wealth is measured by the unrealised value of the house you live in, rather than your actual ability to pay, or the actual profit.

People can't have it both ways.

poetryandwine · 30/06/2026 14:32

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 11:13

Just RTT
its posted
homework’s done

No. There are 30 pages of opinions, conjectures and premature worry. A very different thing.

@DdraigGoch has suggested the germ of some interesting ideas on how CGT could be used to influence social policy, but that’s about it.

EasternStandard · 30/06/2026 14:35

poetryandwine · 30/06/2026 14:32

No. There are 30 pages of opinions, conjectures and premature worry. A very different thing.

@DdraigGoch has suggested the germ of some interesting ideas on how CGT could be used to influence social policy, but that’s about it.

Your summary was off.

EasternStandard · 30/06/2026 14:36

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 13:44

It should also be adjusted for household income.

Ok that’s not LVT then based on property value, that’s more like income tax based on income.

Calliopespa · 30/06/2026 14:37

Beachbooks · 22/06/2026 12:25

Why would it be hilarious ?

Schadenfreude presumably.

HappenstanceMarmite · 30/06/2026 15:45

KeepPumping · 30/06/2026 13:44

It should also be adjusted for household income.

Agreed

NorthXNorthWest · 30/06/2026 16:16

HappenstanceMarmite · 30/06/2026 15:45

Agreed

That is what income tax is for.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 16:38

I wouldn’t want to leave this thread out of a bit of artwork I’ve posted on another
In for a penny as they say
Looking forward into the not too distant future

NorthXNorthWest · 30/06/2026 16:47

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 16:38

I wouldn’t want to leave this thread out of a bit of artwork I’ve posted on another
In for a penny as they say
Looking forward into the not too distant future

😂

I love it. I will cherish it always.

Mr Sheen shines umpteen things clean Sometimes, even Mr. Sheen has to concede defeat.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 17:43

Bit of a derail but Starmer is throwing U.K. students under the bus on his way out

This from the Telegraph

Starmer offers EU students cut-price tuition fees in Brexit reset talks
Major Brussels concession could save European undergraduates £28,000 – and cost UK’s higher education sector £500m

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/06/2026 18:09

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 17:43

Bit of a derail but Starmer is throwing U.K. students under the bus on his way out

This from the Telegraph

Starmer offers EU students cut-price tuition fees in Brexit reset talks
Major Brussels concession could save European undergraduates £28,000 – and cost UK’s higher education sector £500m

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I think the drop in EU students by two thirds probably has more to do with it than anything targeted at the ones who pay the lower fees here.

ATM, the large increase in overseas fees to EU students has roughly balanced the income, but that's a risky game and hasn't exactly helped keeping courses open for everybody, as numbers are still down too much to make them pay when you take into account staffing, premises, etc - by cutting the cost a bit, that could mean a significant increase in university revenues again and mean fewer universities need to make significant redundancies or dump courses mid degree.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 18:47

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/06/2026 18:09

I think the drop in EU students by two thirds probably has more to do with it than anything targeted at the ones who pay the lower fees here.

ATM, the large increase in overseas fees to EU students has roughly balanced the income, but that's a risky game and hasn't exactly helped keeping courses open for everybody, as numbers are still down too much to make them pay when you take into account staffing, premises, etc - by cutting the cost a bit, that could mean a significant increase in university revenues again and mean fewer universities need to make significant redundancies or dump courses mid degree.

The drop is down to
Visa issues
Less post grad courses ( it’s these that have seen the highest decline )
Stopping family joining students

None of that is changing
No doubt a reduced fee in line with home grown students will increase numbers. We know however that Unis have relied on higher fees to balance the books.
Seems short sighted and will increase U.K. students costs

Araminta1003 · 30/06/2026 18:52

I thought the controversy was over the fact that EU students could qualify for student loans previously but that it was very hard to enforce pay back if they went home. What advantage will UK students going to European universities get in return?

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 30/06/2026 18:58

Araminta1003 · 30/06/2026 18:52

I thought the controversy was over the fact that EU students could qualify for student loans previously but that it was very hard to enforce pay back if they went home. What advantage will UK students going to European universities get in return?

Students have to have settled status ie living here for 3years before application for a Student loan
That can’t be 3years at Uni though

UK students are classed as International students in EU countries so don’t get any sweeping reductions compared to any other International Students
The same as before.
I’m not aware according to the papers that Starmer has got a better deal for ours

I understand Starmers looking for a NATO job atm.