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AIBU to question the media response to the Belfast attack?

770 replies

Squirrel001 · Yesterday 08:55

Why are the media being silent on the Belfast attack?

Is the open borders narrative that important to them that they feel the need to ignore one of the most horrific attacks ever seen on a UK street?

I despair for the future of the UK. It’s grim.

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Walkyrie · Today 11:04

cardibach · Today 11:02

Like who? Give me an example.

Taking the knee for an American drug user and criminal?

cardibach · Today 11:05

Gloriia · Today 11:03

I agree. People should play nicely but when we have protests, public fear and anger then these things do often escalate, regrettably. Look at all the violence with the BLM 'protests'. Politicians stoked that situation yet that was ok for some reason.

Violence is never ok. I don’t know anyone who supported violence at BLM demos.

cardibach · Today 11:06

Walkyrie · Today 11:04

Taking the knee for an American drug user and criminal?

For the idea that people shouldn’t be murdered by police you mean?
Who did that treat differently though?

Velumental · Today 11:06

Gloriia · Today 11:01

No one condones stress snd fear, that is the whole point. None of us should be fearful that someone from a 'war torn country' will try to behead us.

Extraordinary that you think your fellow countrymen would target a pregnant woman.

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And I don't claim these violent pigs by the way, not does any right minded person I know back home

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:07

cardibach · Today 11:05

Violence is never ok. I don’t know anyone who supported violence at BLM demos.

Anybody who took the knee for a man who held a shotgun to a pregnant woman's stomach supported violence.

Gloriia · Today 11:07

Velumental · Today 11:04

Loyalists shoot dead pregnant woman in front of her baby | The Independent | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/loyalists-shoot-dead-pregnant-woman-in-front-of-her-baby-1374997.html

Maybe it's the strong memory of this and similar attacks when I was a young child by the same shower.

We've been through this, vile republican and loyalist murderers do not mean this atrocity should be shrugged off.

Your link from a national paper clearly disputes your claims that NI atrocities weren't ever reported on

MsJinks · Today 11:07

Walkyrie · Today 11:04

Taking the knee for an American drug user and criminal?

Oh our local protestors did that last night - I mean they could have misunderstood the meaning behind taking the knee but it definitely looked like they were doing it for George Floyd - one racist at a time being converted - maybe!

Gloriia · Today 11:07

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:07

Anybody who took the knee for a man who held a shotgun to a pregnant woman's stomach supported violence.

Yep and Starmer 'shh sit down everyone and be quiet' we are looking at you.

Velumental · Today 11:07

Gloriia · Today 11:07

We've been through this, vile republican and loyalist murderers do not mean this atrocity should be shrugged off.

Your link from a national paper clearly disputes your claims that NI atrocities weren't ever reported on

You asked why I thought they'd target a pregnant woman, this is why I know they'd target a pregnant woman

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:12

Gloriia · Today 11:07

Yep and Starmer 'shh sit down everyone and be quiet' we are looking at you.

I don't know why the left keep insisting they're on the right side of history. Anytime there's an act like the attempted murder, the whatabouts begin. I can't even imagine reading about the acts in all these savage cases, Southport girls especially, and my first thought to be to compare who's the most violent.

Whammyammy · Today 11:13

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:07

Anybody who took the knee for a man who held a shotgun to a pregnant woman's stomach supported violence.

Youre bringing truthful facts into the argument.... get your tin hat ready

Gloriia · Today 11:15

Velumental · Today 11:07

You asked why I thought they'd target a pregnant woman, this is why I know they'd target a pregnant woman

'They' were gang members/terrorists. Are you suggesting everyone is the same in Belfast killing pregnant women?

What about your claim that NI crimes weren't reported nationally yet this was the independent? Perhaps you'd like to admit your error?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:15

Whammyammy · Today 11:13

Youre bringing truthful facts into the argument.... get your tin hat ready

Used to the packs which is why I don't bother responding to questions from certain posters.

JHound · Today 11:16

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:07

Anybody who took the knee for a man who held a shotgun to a pregnant woman's stomach supported violence.

Oh not this canard….

People protested extrajudicial killings by police.

cardibach · Today 11:16

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:07

Anybody who took the knee for a man who held a shotgun to a pregnant woman's stomach supported violence.

I’m so sick of this being misrepresented. We were all there. We all remember what it was about. I’m not responding to people twisting it now.

Velumental · Today 11:16

Gloriia · Today 11:15

'They' were gang members/terrorists. Are you suggesting everyone is the same in Belfast killing pregnant women?

What about your claim that NI crimes weren't reported nationally yet this was the independent? Perhaps you'd like to admit your error?

I'm suggesting it's loyalist terrorists behind the rioting and the ordinary people back home are locking their doors and closing their businesses in fear of them. The rioters. The fear is of the rioters.

cardibach · Today 11:18

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:12

I don't know why the left keep insisting they're on the right side of history. Anytime there's an act like the attempted murder, the whatabouts begin. I can't even imagine reading about the acts in all these savage cases, Southport girls especially, and my first thought to be to compare who's the most violent.

Nobody on the left condense this violence. The ‘whatabouts’ on this thread are in response to the OP saying it wasn’t reported because the perpetrator wasn’t white. People pointed to cases where it wasn’t reported much when the perpetrator was white and compared that to the really very extensive coverage (rightly) of this attack. It’s not about the violence. How can you not grasp that?

cardibach · Today 11:20

Gloriia · Today 11:15

'They' were gang members/terrorists. Are you suggesting everyone is the same in Belfast killing pregnant women?

What about your claim that NI crimes weren't reported nationally yet this was the independent? Perhaps you'd like to admit your error?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? @Velumental didn't say NI was never reported on, just that many atrocities that happen there aren't reported in national press. Not all. Many. See the difference?
And she’s mentioned a few awful ones I hadn’t heard of, so I’d say she’s right.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:20

cardibach · Today 11:18

Nobody on the left condense this violence. The ‘whatabouts’ on this thread are in response to the OP saying it wasn’t reported because the perpetrator wasn’t white. People pointed to cases where it wasn’t reported much when the perpetrator was white and compared that to the really very extensive coverage (rightly) of this attack. It’s not about the violence. How can you not grasp that?

I grasp plenty and right now it's going to be some tai chi walking.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 11:21

Velumental · Today 11:04

Loyalists shoot dead pregnant woman in front of her baby | The Independent | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/loyalists-shoot-dead-pregnant-woman-in-front-of-her-baby-1374997.html

Maybe it's the strong memory of this and similar attacks when I was a young child by the same shower.

You really are on a mission of whataboutary.
Digging in the archives. While your at it, can you research how many pregnant women in Sudan.
Heres a snippet.
The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights has reported that at least 118 people had been subjected to sexual violence, including rape, gang rape, and attempted rape in Sudan as of mid-December 2023, including 19 children.

cardibach · Today 11:21

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:20

I grasp plenty and right now it's going to be some tai chi walking.

So you do grasp this and you are being deliberately ingenuous?
Or you don’t grasp it so you are ducking out?

Gloriia · Today 11:22

Velumental · Today 11:16

I'm suggesting it's loyalist terrorists behind the rioting and the ordinary people back home are locking their doors and closing their businesses in fear of them. The rioters. The fear is of the rioters.

Loyalist terrorists my arse.

It's a volatile place many brought up against the backdrop of gang violence yes but in this situation I've seen both republicans and loyalists join together to condem and protest this horrific atrocity.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 11:24

https://www.unwomen.org/en/articles/faqs/how-women-and-girls-are-being-targeted-in-the-war-in-sudan www.unwomen.org/en/articles/faqs/how-women-and-girls-are-being-targeted-in-the-war-in-sudan]]]]
I would welcome women from these shit holes instead of the men who treat them like dirt.

Gloriia · Today 11:25

cardibach · Today 11:20

Are you being deliberately obtuse? @Velumental didn't say NI was never reported on, just that many atrocities that happen there aren't reported in national press. Not all. Many. See the difference?
And she’s mentioned a few awful ones I hadn’t heard of, so I’d say she’s right.

I cba to trawl back so to paraphrase 'they've been killing each other for years in NI wife beaters, murders. Never reported on and no one on England cared until an 'asylum seeker' gouged eyes and tried to behead someone'.

Thr Independent is a national paper, no?

cardibach · Today 11:31

Gloriia · Today 11:25

I cba to trawl back so to paraphrase 'they've been killing each other for years in NI wife beaters, murders. Never reported on and no one on England cared until an 'asylum seeker' gouged eyes and tried to behead someone'.

Thr Independent is a national paper, no?

The point is you are paraphrasing. @Velumental has said NI has very violent groups and there’s a lot of violence, much of which doesn’t reach the national press. She is right as far as I can see. And this one has, rightly, made the national press - so there’s no cover up which is what the OP alleged.

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