To think we shouldn’t have to contribute to soch if we don’t intend to use it?

[slozenger]

For example, I don’t want a state pension - so I should surely be able to opt out of soch based contributions percentage. And just pay a lesser amount to cover anything I do take advantage of.

What if you were unconscious?

None nhs user would also have to use medics trained outside the UK or that’s cheating. Not consultants who mix private and nhs work

and never need emergency treatment as well as the intensive care treatment

the men who collect her bins and fix the roads she uses or serve her coffees or wait her tables in restaurants or police her streets… are 93% educated by state schools and kept healthy by NHS services. It’s called benefiting vicariously. Even if she is not a direct recipient, she still benefits from it.

So you are basically saying you are rich, don’t need the safety net that some need so want to pay in to the safety net less.

let me guess inherited wealth or landlord parasite? Well done you, no doubt you’ve got a sob story about being self made, you worked hard, if only the poor worked harder they too could achieve what you achieved, have I called that right Elon or is it Donald?

OP I don't think you get this.

We have no idea what SOCH is. We've googled it, and google doesn't know.

Seriously.. It's not in common usage and we have no idea !

I guess I should have added a sarcasm note everyone, sorry!

I'm not convinced many people plan to have strokes, car accidents, heart attacks etc. Yet the data tells us they do anyway.

Of course she gets it. She's winding us all op. Well done op, gave me a good laugh.

OP is trying to self treat stupidity

I know. I wasn't being serious... Will clarify in future!

60, and never heard of this term, and I'm pretty switched on.

Can I add to that, we all pay for prisons, even if we never intend to use one?

Although it could be argued we all benefit from their existence

LOL sorry - OP’s posts are frying my brain!

I’m 70. Worked for 40+ years. Never heard of soch.

Me too!

Mind you, I've just spotted the title is a discount for not intending to use services. Not not using them.

I have no intention of needing the fire service, police, NHS. I do not intend being seriously sick, injured, or a victim of crime.

Do I get a rebate? Please?

I posted. I think it’s a shortening of ‘social’. A verbal thing.

You simply can’t opt out of the NHS in this country. It amazes me people think they can. Even in the cities there isn’t a good enough emergency response service. Private hospitals regularly hand over people who need intensive care. Sure opt out but you’re only a car accident or heart attack away from A+E.

So not even a proper term. @slozenger I think you need apologise to people who you ridiculed because they didn’t get your slang

YABU and selfish . Also you might not think you will need the states help in your life . I am all right jack but you might one day .

Never heard it either.

I always thought that was the intent of National Insurance, to cover the 5 elements of the Welfare State; Social Security, Health care, Education, Housing, Employment.

That’s how I’ve interpreted it - like shortening Gary to Gaz. The OP’s superciliousness over the fact that the rest of us prefer to communicate in proper written English rather than informal text speak, doesn’t really lend her comments much intellectual robustness, does it? Trying to explain the values and the economic underpinnings of a social system predicated on everyone paying in, to someone who calls it ‘the soch’ is a waste of our time, I think.

Am going to go and do my ironing instead.

It really isn’t. Do you need help with literacy?

Many people on here weren’t even born pre-2001. I was 11. So no, I didn’t know what ‘soch’ was before this thread, have never heard of it before, and google didn’t come up with much. So just as you can call people facetious, people may think of you as cantankerous/stuck in your ways/fuddy duddy.

So if you’re in, say, a rail crash or a road accident, you’d like the rest of us to just leave you lying screaming in the wreckage? Right.

Not to mention that ‘social’ if that’s what the OP meant, doesn’t pay for the NHS.

But then it is spelt incorrectly. Phonetically, “soch” is a nonsense. Maybe OP is 7 years old or something. 🤷‍♀️