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To think we shouldn’t have to contribute to soch if we don’t intend to use it?

737 replies

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:03

For example, I don’t want a state pension - so I should surely be able to opt out of soch based contributions percentage. And just pay a lesser amount to cover anything I do take advantage of.

OP posts:
rainonfriday · 29/01/2026 14:57

Ihatetomatoes · 29/01/2026 14:08

You do love to invent 'words' @slozenger

What is 'particulaed'? 'Alass' with an extra letter, hoping it might catch on?

'Cba' Very stroppy teenager mid tantrum.

Edited

If she's for real, she's in desperate need of a dictionary. She accused us all of "parentifying ourselves" early in the thread. I think she meant becoming parents.

OP we can't parentify ourselves, it's a form of child abuse done to a person by their parents.

jbm16 · 29/01/2026 14:57

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:03

For example, I don’t want a state pension - so I should surely be able to opt out of soch based contributions percentage. And just pay a lesser amount to cover anything I do take advantage of.

Circumstance could change, what happens if you needed a state pension for some reason and hadn't been contributing?

Parker231 · 29/01/2026 15:01

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:25

Social Securtity contributions. Prior to 2001 this was their name, and therefore how I choose to word it, as I have done for the entirety of my life.

If you don’t want to claim your state pension, you don’t have to but you shouldn’t get a reduction in national insurance contributions as current payments are funding those currently receiving their pension.

grumpygrape · 29/01/2026 15:12

slozenger · 29/01/2026 14:54

As I’ve said previously to others, you’ve missed the boat. It is too late to come just to jump on the bandwagon.

I haven’t missed anything; I’ve read all of your posts and most others. I had nothing much to add, as others have said what I would have said so there was no point me just repeating the same messages.

I do wonder what boat I have missed; do you just not have any more pearls to drop into the discussion ? I don’t see a bandwagon; just a lot of people wondering what you are really trying to achieve.

StripyHorse · 29/01/2026 15:21

One aspect you have conveniently overlooked is how interlinked our society is. You cannot say 'I am not getting x so I won't pay' when ultimately you are still benefitting.

For example, assuming you don't grow all your own food and weave your own clothes on your £75000 salary.... everything you buy has a chain of workers contributing to the production and distribution. Many of those workers will be paid so poorly, and offered such terrible occupational pensions so they will need a state pension. You indirectly benefit by this because their low wages keep prices down.

Some of the current pensioners you object paying for probably contributed in some way to your life prior to now - again, unless you live in a bubble.

ilovesooty · 29/01/2026 15:36

slozenger · 29/01/2026 14:54

As I’ve said previously to others, you’ve missed the boat. It is too late to come just to jump on the bandwagon.

You're not in a position to police other posters' contributions.

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:39

ilovesooty · 29/01/2026 15:36

You're not in a position to police other posters' contributions.

I cannot police them. But as they’ve been submitted two days too late, I can certainly refuse to acknowledge them.

OP posts:
Minjou · 29/01/2026 15:48

There's no time limit for posting.

jdb9803 · 29/01/2026 15:48

I'm guessing the reason they aren't going to get a pension is because they aren't from the UK and don't qualify for one. Wherever they are from pay SOCH or SOSH or whatever - since no one else has a clue what they are on about

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:51

jdb9803 · 29/01/2026 15:48

I'm guessing the reason they aren't going to get a pension is because they aren't from the UK and don't qualify for one. Wherever they are from pay SOCH or SOSH or whatever - since no one else has a clue what they are on about

I do qualify, I just don’t need it

OP posts:
Oftenaddled · 29/01/2026 15:52

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:51

I do qualify, I just don’t need it

Then when the time comes, you can take it and consider it your tax rebate

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:54

Oftenaddled · 29/01/2026 15:52

Then when the time comes, you can take it and consider it your tax rebate

Good idea

OP posts:
Boomer55 · 29/01/2026 16:00

ClearFruit · 28/01/2026 10:08

I am 47 and have never heard that phrase in my life.

You're the facetious one.

I don’t know either 🤷‍♀️🙄🙄

ilovesooty · 29/01/2026 17:12

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:39

I cannot police them. But as they’ve been submitted two days too late, I can certainly refuse to acknowledge them.

Well, you haven't engaged with others on any meaningful level at any point in the thread. And as others have said, you don't get to say what the time limit is.

Tigerbalmshark · 29/01/2026 17:16

jbm16 · 29/01/2026 14:57

Circumstance could change, what happens if you needed a state pension for some reason and hadn't been contributing?

She’s answered that, she’d use one of her self-inflicted ailments to cure herself. And no it didn’t make any sense in context either.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 29/01/2026 17:44

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:39

I cannot police them. But as they’ve been submitted two days too late, I can certainly refuse to acknowledge them.

Too late for what ? Do you know how MN works because it seems not.

SabrinaThwaite · 29/01/2026 20:27

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:51

I do qualify, I just don’t need it

So claim it and then donate the whole lot to charity every month.

You don’t need it and charities will be happy to get £12k a year.

Win win!

ETA: You could make sad donkeys just a wee bit happier. What’s not to love.

Duckishness · 29/01/2026 21:54

Ihatetomatoes · 29/01/2026 14:08

You do love to invent 'words' @slozenger

What is 'particulaed'? 'Alass' with an extra letter, hoping it might catch on?

'Cba' Very stroppy teenager mid tantrum.

Edited

Also “diffrent”. All a bit lolz isn’t it.

slozenger · 29/01/2026 21:54

Duckishness · 29/01/2026 21:54

Also “diffrent”. All a bit lolz isn’t it.

WTF is Lolz? I’m recoiling at your choice of word.

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Ihatetomatoes · 29/01/2026 22:13

slozenger · 29/01/2026 15:39

I cannot police them. But as they’ve been submitted two days too late, I can certainly refuse to acknowledge them.

You did acknowledge the post by replying to it 😂

slozenger · 29/01/2026 22:13

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Now I know you are bored 🤣

The thread is almost full. I imagine having nothing to do tomorrow, you'll change name and start a new thread 🙄🤣

grumpygrape · 29/01/2026 22:18

I just don’t know whether to laugh or be concerned about OP’s mental health.

slozenger · 29/01/2026 22:19

grumpygrape · 29/01/2026 22:18

I just don’t know whether to laugh or be concerned about OP’s mental health.

Just laugh. This is just a fun post.

OP posts:
grumpygrape · 29/01/2026 22:20

slozenger · 29/01/2026 22:19

Just laugh. This is just a fun post.

But that’s what someone with mental health problems would say.

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