"First post nails it."

[Incelebration]

Really wish this smug and overused comment would be banned.

(I realise it's entirely predictable what will happen at the beginning of this thread...😄)

By that same token, what makes you the arbiter of what constitutes a ‘smug and overused comment’?

Are you against people making any sort of declarative statement, then? How would conversations work? Everything would have to be caveated by ‘in my opinion’, otherwise the speaker would clearly be declaring themselves the arbiter of something?

Well, who made anyone expressing any opinion the arbiter of what’s correct? If someone thinks the first post nails it, that’s them expressing their personal opinion - which the OP has asked for by starting a thread. If they expressed the same opinion as the first post, but in slightly different words, that wouldn’t make them the arbiter either.

If anything, I think it’s the opposite of smug. It’s saying “The first poster expressed my opinion more effectively than I ever could, and my re-hash wouldn’t add anything, so well done them.”

We all think our opinion is correct. Otherwise it wouldn't be our opinion. You might prefer the softener of 'in my opinion the first post is correct...' but the meaning remains the same. The person still thinks their opinion is right. As do we all if we're sufficiently moved to offer it.

It feels subtly different. Maybe...

Love your username, btw!

I'm not (the arbiter). I suppose what I'm getting at is that "I agree" sounds like an opinion whereas "First post nails it" sounds like it's stating a fact.

But yes, I see your point.

That's an interesting and fair take, yes.

Also a very cool username!

I love the “First post nails it.” comment.

However, I do wish people would actually quote the first post when they say it, because by the time I’ve reached the message that says “First post nails it” I will have long forgotten what the first post actually said.

True. Perhaps IABU in thinking the statement "First post nails it" doesn't sound like an opinion. To me it sounds more of a statement, and rather blunt, but my interpretation doesn't "prove" that is how it is intended.

Some interesting food for thought. I'm happy with (currently) over 40% of people thinking IANBU, but willing to concede that people see the expression as just another way of expressing their opinion and it's not intended to be smug.

Agreeing = smug 🤔

Well, I learn new things every day.

Would you prefer it if PPs said, ‘first post nails it IMO’? So it's clear it's an opinion rather than a fact?

Whereas in reality don’t always specify that it’s their opinion although it obviously is. It can’t be anything else, surely?

But you started a thread about banning something you don’t like - who made you the authority to decide that?

I like it.

If it helps, it's irritating if I think the first post was a pile of nonsense..

"First post nails it" is usually true though.

Far less irritating than pages and pages of posts all saying exactly the same thing with no idea that 250 other people have said it before you.

It's certainly the case that the first post often sets the tone for the rest of the bed. If it's a definite YABU, the thread can very quickly turn into a pile-on.

I've seen a lot of "As usual first post nails it!"
comments. It does sound a tiny bit like, end the thread no one else's opinion matters.
There are a lot of comments that get repetitive and a bit irritating if you are on MN a lot.
I always hate Reader I.......
Urgh, it's been done to death.

As a wiser poster once said
Be unique. Then you will be yourself more
🤗😂😂

😄

No-one. I simply said I wished it would be banned.

Yeah, a PP said something very similar earlier which I answered at 14:50.

It's true I tend to read it as someone thinking they're stating a fact, whereas I should probably see it as just another opinion.

I've said several times it's not the agreeing I see as smug.

Yes, I think you're right.

I've just noticed that I wrote ‘bed’ instead of ‘tread’. Predictive text once again! 🤣

If you'd written that the bed turns into a pile-on that would be a very different matter!

So Tedious isn’t it?

and then there are the people who start criticising mumsnet for being contrary….does no one realise it’s different people, not a council of the same 12 people?