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Virginia Giuffre

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wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 10:04

No part of me will ever believe that was a suicide. That was every bit a murder. MSM are complicit by going along with lie.

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YankSplaining · 31/08/2025 17:01

Virginia Giuffre had a lot of misery on her life, and things had become even more complicated and difficult for her in the last few years before she died. Unfortunately, I think she felt hopeless and was tired of fighting and just wanted her pain to end.

I think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself as well, and arranged for guards to be paid off if they “looked the other way.” Even if he’d somehow been acquitted, he would have been a social pariah and probably in extensive debt from his legal expenses. There was no happy ending to his story.

Diana died because the driver was drunk and driving too fast and she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt.

DBSFstupid · 31/08/2025 17:03

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 31/08/2025 16:54

Sure thing, champ 👍

For clarification I don't agree with all the OP's post but I definitely agree that the MSM is compromised and that there is overall a major lack of critical thinking.

FatherFrosty · 31/08/2025 18:18

DBSFstupid · 31/08/2025 17:03

For clarification I don't agree with all the OP's post but I definitely agree that the MSM is compromised and that there is overall a major lack of critical thinking.

I do agree with this.
just look at some of the reporting we’ve had over the past 5 - 10 years. They aren’t even hiding it right now. It’s going unchallenged and is funded by people’s personal agenda. It’s fuelling so much hate

HoskinsChoice · 31/08/2025 18:43

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 13:41

It's actually a sign of lack of thinking skills to believe this bs. She issued a very clear statement saying she was not suicidal and that if anything happened to her it was foul play. They took her out. As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident? If so, there isn't much hope.
She was a liability so they murdered her. Like Diana.
Easy to say she had MH issues but the woman purposely put out a statement. I'm going with her not the bs fallacy of suicide which she warned us about.
The powers that be have a track record of major lies. Think "weapons of mass destruction " prior to invasion of Iraq...for oil. Only a fool would believe anything coming out as 'official'. Think. For yourself. The MSM is majorly compromised. Not my mind needing a wobble.

'A lack of thinking skills'. 🤣🤣🤣 Bless you, they've really got you haven't they.

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 31/08/2025 18:46

I was with you until you added in Diana.
It wouldn’t surprise me if there was more to VG’s death.
That said, if it was suicide then her abusers are murderers in part anyway.

whitewineandsun · 31/08/2025 18:48

Overtheatlantic · 31/08/2025 13:55

Could you possibly make your point without insulting those who don’t share your opinion?

Of course not. We're all sheep, you see. OP alone knows.

allusernamesaretakennow · 31/08/2025 18:50

BookwormDadUK · 31/08/2025 13:47

But... why? She'd already made her allegations, and written the book. What would the Royal Family have to gain by killing her at this stage? With Diana, there's a clear motive (particularly if she was pregnant), but in the case of Virginia hadn't the horse long bolted?

They started dating and vacationing together in July 1997
Diana and Fayed died in a car crash in Paris in August 1997.

So about a month. Diana had previously had a long term relationship with a Muslim man who was a medic. Much longer than a month and no.one killed her then.

ConcernedOfClapham · 31/08/2025 18:51

BettysRoasties · 31/08/2025 14:20

This explains why Asda was out of tin foil this morning.

😆😆😆

allusernamesaretakennow · 31/08/2025 18:53

Aroundthefirepit · 31/08/2025 14:28

I've not read much about it but what I've read seems conflicting as somewhere it says she was hit by a bus and elsewhere she CS. So she killed herself by throwing herself under a bus?????

She previously pretended on social she was seriously injured in a crash. She wasn't. She was obviously a liar as well as mentally ill.

BookwormDadUK · 31/08/2025 18:57

allusernamesaretakennow · 31/08/2025 18:50

They started dating and vacationing together in July 1997
Diana and Fayed died in a car crash in Paris in August 1997.

So about a month. Diana had previously had a long term relationship with a Muslim man who was a medic. Much longer than a month and no.one killed her then.

That's fair. I'm not necessary advocating that Diana was murdered. More, I just dont see any reason for Virginia to have been the victim of a conspiracy. I don't see who gains when she's already divulged the horrific details.

Ahsheeit · 31/08/2025 19:03

Is this a new version of Cluedo?

Bambamhoohoo · 31/08/2025 19:03

allusernamesaretakennow · 31/08/2025 18:53

She previously pretended on social she was seriously injured in a crash. She wasn't. She was obviously a liar as well as mentally ill.

I think a more obvious explanation she was deep in psychosis and / or so mentally ill it killed her weeks later

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 31/08/2025 19:08
  • They took her out. As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident? If so, there isn't much hope. She was a liability so they murdered her. Like Diana*

😆

Yeah, Phillip ran them off the road in his London Cab, then had the intelligence services smuggle him back across the Channel. Nothing to do with a completely high and pissed chauffeur driving like a maniac.

FWIW, Diana was still alive for a good while after the accident. If you are determined to assassinate someone, you pick a method whereby you can be certain they are dead the moment you act. If she'd been wearing a seatbelt it's entirely likely she would have survived the acci... oh sorry, "assassination".

MounjaroMick · 18/07/2026 08:17

I am aware this is an old thread. However, I came across it and noticed how often posters say that Diana died because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt so it proves that she wasn’t killed in a deliberate accident. However, it was standard practice for her to travel without a seatbelt.. which presumably would have been known to anyone who wanted to arrange her death! So that theory doesn’t hold up that well.

The MI5 whistleblower (her videos have already been shared in this thread) says that Diana was about to start campaigning on behalf of Palestine. That gives a motive to some highly dangerous and influential individuals, who quite clearly aren’t too concerned about killing others to achieve an aim.

Why would a former MI5 agent publicly lie and say that she believes that Diana was murdered? She must believe it to be true, or is she just a deluded conspiracy theorist too?

I am not saying that I believe it was definitely the case, but I do think it surprising that people are so determined to believe the official narrative. Cover ups by those in positions of power aren’t hard to believe! Particularly when Isreal are involved, it seems

squashyhat · 18/07/2026 08:18

Give it a rest.

HowSweatyMess · 18/07/2026 08:22

For crying in a bucket @MounjaroMick - go have a cup of coffee and read a book. That anyone is still even thinking about this nonsense all these years later is worrying.

Cheese55 · 18/07/2026 08:53

piperatthegates · 31/08/2025 13:53

I don't know about Virginia Giuffre I haven't looked into it but no one forced Diana to get into a car with a drunk driver and fail to put her seatbelt on!!

I was never convinced the drunk driver was over the limit, and even if he was it probably wouldn't have made much difference as in they would have crashed regardless. It was the seat belt that was the problem.

IntoTheRoseGarden · 18/07/2026 08:53

LemondrizzleShark · 31/08/2025 14:39

The CIA, Hillary Clinton and Prince Philip’s ghost. All together, like Murder on the Orient Express.

Murder at the Pizza Express.

Elsvieta · 18/07/2026 11:46

Ah yes, Annie Machon, former partner of, er, David Shayler...

You think someone staged a car crash, on a public road with lots of random traffic around, in a way that could guarantee that the intended target would be killed, but no other vehicles involved? And the (drunk) driver - what, volunteered to sacrifice himself (as he was so committed to the cause of helping out a foreign royal family)? It's not even a good conspiracy theory.

Summeriscumin · 18/07/2026 12:17

Her family disowned her and she was caught in several lies.

I totally believe it was suicide before she was asked when else she had lied.

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