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Virginia Giuffre

63 replies

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 10:04

No part of me will ever believe that was a suicide. That was every bit a murder. MSM are complicit by going along with lie.

OP posts:
Aroundthefirepit · 31/08/2025 14:28

I've not read much about it but what I've read seems conflicting as somewhere it says she was hit by a bus and elsewhere she CS. So she killed herself by throwing herself under a bus?????

ClearFruit · 31/08/2025 14:28

Calm down OP.

LhudeSingCuccu · 31/08/2025 14:30

As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident?

You lost me here 😂😂

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 31/08/2025 14:33

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 13:41

It's actually a sign of lack of thinking skills to believe this bs. She issued a very clear statement saying she was not suicidal and that if anything happened to her it was foul play. They took her out. As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident? If so, there isn't much hope.
She was a liability so they murdered her. Like Diana.
Easy to say she had MH issues but the woman purposely put out a statement. I'm going with her not the bs fallacy of suicide which she warned us about.
The powers that be have a track record of major lies. Think "weapons of mass destruction " prior to invasion of Iraq...for oil. Only a fool would believe anything coming out as 'official'. Think. For yourself. The MSM is majorly compromised. Not my mind needing a wobble.

I have very clear thinking skills .
These , in relation to Diane , tell me :-
A car accident is a very poor way to ensure someone dies .
You would not choose to do this in a foreign country where you have less control over the circumstances.
You would have to ensure all the emergency services who attended the scene were complict and also those in any healthcare facility she was brought to.
You would have prevent any members of the public witnessing the event so that her injuries could be made to be fatal .
You would have to know exactly the route the car was going to take and exact timing .
You would need to stop Diana wearing her seat belt.
And of course you must make sure all those people involved in this conspiracy to murder never say a word .
In relation to VG . She had( understandably ) poor mental health and she had told her story already . Epstein is dead and Duke of York is disgraced .
My my doesnt need a wobble but then i prefer to look for evidence rather than rabbit holes .

Redheadedstepchild · 31/08/2025 14:35

I think that it was somewhere in between. It would be good if there was a term in law similar to constructive dismissal for a job, only for your life.

Be terribly difficult to prove though, I suppose.

The Epstein case was resurfacing again, she must have been under a lot of pressure in different ways. Surely the media were back in touch and perhaps she could have got the odd communication from, "People she didn't want to speak to for obvious reasons." IYSWIM.

She couldn't fight any more. Constructively suicided.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 31/08/2025 14:37

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 14:07

She was murdered

Of course she wasn't!

Bambamhoohoo · 31/08/2025 14:38

Aroundthefirepit · 31/08/2025 14:28

I've not read much about it but what I've read seems conflicting as somewhere it says she was hit by a bus and elsewhere she CS. So she killed herself by throwing herself under a bus?????

It seems likely in retrospect that she made the bus crash up. Her mental health must’ve been at critical point and she had gained a lot of injuries.

LhudeSingCuccu · 31/08/2025 14:39

Dolphinnoises · 31/08/2025 14:36

I love this. But the conspiracy theorists are too dim to get it.

PorcelainBlueCorydalis · 31/08/2025 14:39

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 13:41

It's actually a sign of lack of thinking skills to believe this bs. She issued a very clear statement saying she was not suicidal and that if anything happened to her it was foul play. They took her out. As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident? If so, there isn't much hope.
She was a liability so they murdered her. Like Diana.
Easy to say she had MH issues but the woman purposely put out a statement. I'm going with her not the bs fallacy of suicide which she warned us about.
The powers that be have a track record of major lies. Think "weapons of mass destruction " prior to invasion of Iraq...for oil. Only a fool would believe anything coming out as 'official'. Think. For yourself. The MSM is majorly compromised. Not my mind needing a wobble.

Wow. OK then.

LemondrizzleShark · 31/08/2025 14:39

MissMoneyFairy · 31/08/2025 13:50

Who murdered her?

The CIA, Hillary Clinton and Prince Philip’s ghost. All together, like Murder on the Orient Express.

whoboo · 31/08/2025 14:41

Agree

whoboo · 31/08/2025 14:43

Epstein fully died of natural causes (lol)

ARichtGoodDram · 31/08/2025 14:53

The press were starting to turn on Diana with her multiple holidays and hanging out with the Fayed's to wind people up.

Her death, and subsequent martyrdom, did more damage to the royal family than any other incident in living memory.

The one survivor of the crash had his seatbelt on. If she'd had hers on she'd have also survived.

DBSFstupid · 31/08/2025 15:00

wishingyouwell · 31/08/2025 13:41

It's actually a sign of lack of thinking skills to believe this bs. She issued a very clear statement saying she was not suicidal and that if anything happened to her it was foul play. They took her out. As they did Diana. Or do you also believe Diana died in an unfortunate (but hugely convenient) accident? If so, there isn't much hope.
She was a liability so they murdered her. Like Diana.
Easy to say she had MH issues but the woman purposely put out a statement. I'm going with her not the bs fallacy of suicide which she warned us about.
The powers that be have a track record of major lies. Think "weapons of mass destruction " prior to invasion of Iraq...for oil. Only a fool would believe anything coming out as 'official'. Think. For yourself. The MSM is majorly compromised. Not my mind needing a wobble.

You're going to get a lot of crap on here OP.

I agree with you.
The problem is that those coming out of our 'Education systems' do not know how to critically think about anything. It is completely bias teaching although nobody will admit this. There is only one way of thinking that's acceptable. God forbid you dare to think outide the box, oh but hang on, how can you if you are not taught how to from a young age?
We are going to hell in a handcart and very few people can see it or if they do they are shut down.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 31/08/2025 15:20

Aroundthefirepit · 31/08/2025 14:28

I've not read much about it but what I've read seems conflicting as somewhere it says she was hit by a bus and elsewhere she CS. So she killed herself by throwing herself under a bus?????

No, she was being driven in a car which supposedly stopped in front of a bus (full of children). No emergency services attended and the kids parents were assured all was fine. The next day the bus driver reported the incident.

VG put up a social media post documenting a range of injuries she sustained as a result of an almost 70mph crash which had caused kidney failure and she had four days to live but "didn't want to go without seeing her children first."

The backdrop of which was that her husband had custody of their kids and she was forbidden from seeing them for breaching a family violence restraining order.

CunningPlanMaster · 31/08/2025 15:44

Dolphinnoises · 31/08/2025 14:36

I was looking for this to post and you beat me to it 😂

ninjahamster · 31/08/2025 15:54

I don’t think either VG or Diana were murdered.
VG had serious MH issues, I do too, I know how muddled thoughts and wishes can become. It’s very easy to talk yourself into death by suicide when you are rock bottom.
Diana, I agree with other posters, should have been wearing a seatbelt. It seems very likely to me that the RF would murder her in another country where they had no control.

BettysRoasties · 31/08/2025 15:58

Look. If your going to kill people to hide secrets you kill them before.

So VG you would have got rid of before it became a royal problem.

Again Diana there would have been much easier ways that were 100% rather than hoping a crash would do it. Also again you’d of done it before she spilled the beans on Camilla being the third wheel.

For all it’s worth knowing Charles was having it off, it would have been better off to kill her say during childbirth with Harry. Much sadness for the prince’s and Charles a lone widow raising the boys seeking help and love. Falls in love with Camilla who was his rock during this time.

That’s not to say our government and royals don’t hide stuff. Look at the testing on its own people back in the day. But try some logic as well.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 31/08/2025 16:00

DBSFstupid · 31/08/2025 15:00

You're going to get a lot of crap on here OP.

I agree with you.
The problem is that those coming out of our 'Education systems' do not know how to critically think about anything. It is completely bias teaching although nobody will admit this. There is only one way of thinking that's acceptable. God forbid you dare to think outide the box, oh but hang on, how can you if you are not taught how to from a young age?
We are going to hell in a handcart and very few people can see it or if they do they are shut down.

Thanks for a perfect example of why conspiracy theories are so attractive to some. You get to feel like you're special because you're oh so much more discerning and smart than us dumb sheep, aren't you?

The great thing about conspiracy theories are there are so many of them. As soon as one gets shown to be utter bollocks, ten more mutually contradictory ones spring up to fill the gap and the conspiracy theorist grifters make money off it either way.

ninjahamster · 31/08/2025 16:00

ninjahamster · 31/08/2025 15:54

I don’t think either VG or Diana were murdered.
VG had serious MH issues, I do too, I know how muddled thoughts and wishes can become. It’s very easy to talk yourself into death by suicide when you are rock bottom.
Diana, I agree with other posters, should have been wearing a seatbelt. It seems very likely to me that the RF would murder her in another country where they had no control.

Unlikely!

BMW6 · 31/08/2025 16:14

Dolphinnoises · 31/08/2025 14:36

Perfect antidote to the OP's batshittery 😂😂😂

DBSFstupid · 31/08/2025 16:22

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 31/08/2025 16:00

Thanks for a perfect example of why conspiracy theories are so attractive to some. You get to feel like you're special because you're oh so much more discerning and smart than us dumb sheep, aren't you?

The great thing about conspiracy theories are there are so many of them. As soon as one gets shown to be utter bollocks, ten more mutually contradictory ones spring up to fill the gap and the conspiracy theorist grifters make money off it either way.

Special? Hardly.
Your 'critical thinking' skills has just proved my point. 😂😂

RapunzelHadExtensions · 31/08/2025 16:27

It wasn't convenient at all, the Royal family fell apart in the publics eye when it happened and it took decades to repair.

I'm no fan of the royal family by any means but to argue they would allow the mother of the heirs to die leaving them bereft and traumatised for life is pretty far fetched. Not to mention the driver (who was well over the limit) having to, what, crash his car on purpose and kill himself?

I've reported this thread BTW.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 31/08/2025 16:54

DBSFstupid · 31/08/2025 16:22

Special? Hardly.
Your 'critical thinking' skills has just proved my point. 😂😂

Sure thing, champ 👍

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