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What was the toe sucking scandal?

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justthingse · 30/12/2023 19:14

I am in my mid 20's so was not alive during the 90's when The Duchess of York was apparently seen as a disgrace by the public and media. Can someone who remembers that period tell me about the toe sucking scandal and whether the royal family banishing her for many years was seen as an appropriate response or if the tabloids over sensationalised her antics at the time?

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KarenNotAKaren · 01/01/2024 09:00

IhateHPSDeaneCnt · 01/01/2024 02:54

P.s nobody seems to have picked up to reference of Fergie as a 'Beard'. This normally infers that the couple have an arrangement with full knowledge of other's sexual preferences, usually involved same sex but underage trafficked girls probably sufficed.

I thought that Sophie was supposedly the beard?

KarenNotAKaren · 01/01/2024 09:11

MissBattleaxe · 01/01/2024 04:08

He didn't just say Tampax, he said he wished he could be Camilla's tampon. I take your point about having his privacy invaded but it was pretty shocking at the time as he and Diana were still married.

I do find it galling that Camilla is queen now. The late queen said she would be known as Queen Consort but Charles ignored that.

No he didn’t say he wanted to be her Tampax. At all. Nothing like it.

The only shocking thing is the gross invasion of privacy. Imagine the shocking things you’ve said to your DH! Even if Charles DID say he wanted to be her Tampax (he didn’t) - so what! It’s a private discussion, no signs of anything alarming such as abuse and fuck all to do with anyone else and absolutely nobody else’s place to judge.

Him and Diana were also separated at the time of the conversation.

I do find it galling that Camilla is queen now. The late queen said she would be known as Queen Consort but Charles ignored that.

What? Galling? She is the wife of the King. Wives of Kings are styled as Queen First Name and have been for centuries. The Queen most certainly didn’t want her to be ‘known as Queen Consort’ - given Camilla’s first name is not ‘Consort’ she would never be titled as ‘Queen Consort’. I think you’re getting confused because she IS the Queen Consort however. Do you understand how Consort titles work? The late Queen Elizabeth II’s mum was Queen Elizabeth. Two kings before that we had Queen Mary. They were both Queen Consorts. Prince Philip was a Consort. But they don’t have Consort in their actual titles.

The late Queen about a year before she died expressed her happiness for Camilla to be styled as Queen BTW.

MissBattleaxe · 01/01/2024 09:58

All right @KarenNotAKaren ! No need to give me a bollocking!

LadyBird1973 · 02/01/2024 17:50

If we are going to accept having a royal family, then the wife of the King is the Queen. Once you start cherry picking the rules, the whole concept of monarchy, as an institution, becomes questionable.

MissBattleaxe · 02/01/2024 18:36

It is questionable. I find it harder to swallow than I used to. It feels like an anachronism now.

thecatsthecats · 02/01/2024 20:41

MissBattleaxe · 01/01/2024 04:08

He didn't just say Tampax, he said he wished he could be Camilla's tampon. I take your point about having his privacy invaded but it was pretty shocking at the time as he and Diana were still married.

I do find it galling that Camilla is queen now. The late queen said she would be known as Queen Consort but Charles ignored that.

That's not what he said. He said it would be "just his luck" to be reincarnated as a tampon, and flushed down the loo.

Which is disgusting - an environmentalist should know better than to flush a tampon!

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