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Football: I suppose on Friday we have the embarassing prospect

53 replies

looptheloopinahulahoop · 14/06/2021 18:38

of two British teams playing each other in a match and the UK national anthem being used for one of them, but the Scots have their own.

Why does the England team appropriate the British national anthem?

Why on earth is this still happening?

England uses Jerusalem for the Commonwealth Games, why can't it use it for other occasions too?

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pussycatlickinglollyices · 14/06/2021 18:45

I'm English, but I envy the Scots their choice of National Anthem especially when sung at Murrayfield
I don't think Jerusalem is appropriate as not enough people know the words.

SimonJT · 14/06/2021 18:46

Why doesn’t England have a national anthem?

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 14/06/2021 18:46

I think Jerusalem would be great. It’s used in association with the England cricket team. People would soon learn the words.

ShowMeTheSugar · 14/06/2021 18:47

Im not 100% clear. Do you believe that if the English team used Jerusalem the Scottish team might use GSTQ? Or is it more a case that you think none of the home nations should use GSTQ unless representing the UK?

VeniVidiWeeWee · 14/06/2021 18:47

The official National Anthem of Scotland is God Save The Queen. Apparently the Scottish Executive have the power to change the Anthem but have not chosen to do so.

newnortherner111 · 14/06/2021 18:50

I agree that Jerusalem should be used for a team representing England. Used for the England cricket team as well as in the Commonwealth Games.

StCharlotte · 14/06/2021 18:51

England hasn't appropriated it. The others have rejected it. There's a difference.

God Save the Queen is the official national anthem of all the home countries together as the UK or separately, so technically they "should" play it twice on Friday.

GnomeyGnome · 14/06/2021 18:54

GTSQ is the English national anthem. Not sure why they shouldn't use it?

EdithWeston · 14/06/2021 19:00

The national anthem should be used for GB teams.

When the home nations play separately they should each have their own.

Settling on one for England is long overdue.

montysma1 · 14/06/2021 19:09

Scottish government

DirectionsForUse · 14/06/2021 19:13

Scotland could use it if they wanted to. There's no rule saying they have to have different tunes.

It's much more that Scotland don't want to use the British anthem than that England have appropriated it.

TastyMeatPuppet · 14/06/2021 19:14

I like Flower of Scotland.
Everyone seems to know the words.

GSTQ is two lines then dead.

Newrumpus · 14/06/2021 19:16

Could you occupy yourself with else to avoid this embarrassment?

Newrumpus · 14/06/2021 19:16

With something else!

NameyNameyNameChangey · 14/06/2021 19:44

Jerusalem sung by drunk football fans would be absolutely awful.
I propose England adopt Vindaloo or Footballs Coming Home- at least for the Footie.

GlacindaTheTroll · 14/06/2021 19:46

As there's zero agreement in existing songs, I think we need someone to write rousing words to The Archers theme tune, or perhaps the DamBusters

LadyCatStark · 14/06/2021 19:46

It’s not really embarrassing though is it?

LadyCatStark · 14/06/2021 19:47

@GlacindaTheTroll

As there's zero agreement in existing songs, I think we need someone to write rousing words to The Archers theme tune, or perhaps the DamBusters
There are words to the Dambusters song! But it’s a hymn so might not work.
NameyNameyNameChangey · 14/06/2021 19:48

Actually thinking about it, I think we should scrap GSTQ and just have Vindaloo as our national anthem. Much more upbeat.

BoredatHome321 · 14/06/2021 19:49

@NameyNameyNameChangey

Actually thinking about it, I think we should scrap GSTQ and just have Vindaloo as our national anthem. Much more upbeat.
😂 100%
GlacindaTheTroll · 14/06/2021 19:51

I've just had a google - there are a lot of different lyrics set to Dambusters - not just hymns. I had no idea! Scrub that one then

Travis1 · 14/06/2021 19:53

If this is what causes you ‘embarrassment’ and keeps you up at night then I envy you 🙄

Newrumpus · 14/06/2021 19:57

@NameyNameyNameChangey

Actually thinking about it, I think we should scrap GSTQ and just have Vindaloo as our national anthem. Much more upbeat.
Tbh - pretty much anything is more upbeat. It’s a bit of a dirge.
PotassiumChloride · 14/06/2021 19:59

Is it actually embarrassing though? Or does barely anyone notice?

Plansandpresents · 14/06/2021 20:00

I thought England use Land of Hope and Glory?