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This is shocking...

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Rosiesmydog · 14/05/2021 11:12

terfisaslur.com/centering-trans-people-in-all-discussions/

Just came across this on Twitter. I’m truly shocked at the (male) violence against women, being dressed up as some sort of inclusiveness crusade. I mean...what the actual fuck??

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Cadent · 14/05/2021 11:21

YANBU. What does 'centering' mean in this context? Does it mean trans women are more important than women?

Bluntness100 · 14/05/2021 11:22

Is there not a section for trans issues to be discussed?

nothingcomestonothing · 14/05/2021 11:48

YANBU to object, but surely you have realised before now that everything must be about males? Even or maybe especially things which are meant to be about women

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Rosiesmydog · 14/05/2021 11:51

I think what I’m most shocked about is the misogynistic hatred directed to women. There’s a lot of very ugly threats including rape, murder and maiming.

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BrumBoo · 14/05/2021 11:53

@Bluntness100

Is there not a section for trans issues to be discussed?
I dont remember seeing the 'trans issues' forum. Not sure Mumsnet would be allowed a specific one to be honest. Anyway, this is primarily a female site, so such a huge issue is best placed in as much traffic as possible.
Original poster
Rosiesmydog · 14/05/2021 11:53

terfisaslur.com/

This page is just awful

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AryaStarkWolf · 14/05/2021 11:53

Totally ridiculous

AryaStarkWolf · 14/05/2021 11:55

@Rosiesmydog

I think what I’m most shocked about is the misogynistic hatred directed to women. There’s a lot of very ugly threats including rape, murder and maiming.
because real women are always threatening to rape other women........
AnAwesomePossum · 14/05/2021 11:55

Looking at those posts, I’m really unclear how you are supposed to talk about women’s issues. Women isn’t inclusive of trans men. People with uteruses is cissexist. How is the world are you supposed to describe the class of people who have periods, get pregnant and have abortions if you can neither use the word woman or use identifiers of women?

AryaStarkWolf · 14/05/2021 11:56

@AnAwesomePossum

Looking at those posts, I’m really unclear how you are supposed to talk about women’s issues. Women isn’t inclusive of trans men. People with uteruses is cissexist. How is the world are you supposed to describe the class of people who have periods, get pregnant and have abortions if you can neither use the word woman or use identifiers of women?
I think we're just expected to get back in our boxes and talk about handbags and shoes or something?
BrumBoo · 14/05/2021 11:58

And OP, are you really only just seeing this? Twitter is a cesspit, but society in general doesn't care about women's voices.

Men in 'girl mode' - amazing, brave, should have a voice in every platform.

Actual women - a nuisance who needs to be shut up, unless agreeing with the men, or the men who no longer identify as men. Remember, there's nothing brave about being born a woman in this world. That's our privilege.

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Rosiesmydog · 14/05/2021 12:05

@BrumBoo

And OP, are you really only just seeing this? Twitter is a cesspit, but society in general doesn't care about women's voices.

Men in 'girl mode' - amazing, brave, should have a voice in every platform.

Actual women - a nuisance who needs to be shut up, unless agreeing with the men, or the men who no longer identify as men. Remember, there's nothing brave about being born a woman in this world. That's our privilege.

No...I’ve been seeing it for years. But I’ve only just come across this website and was truly rattled by the violent threats that come from this camp
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Timestablesaretables · 14/05/2021 12:10

Thanks for posting this, eye opening.

Igmum · 14/05/2021 12:24

Horrific. I'm torn between thinking they are lunatics and wondering how on earth we can discuss serious (and frivolous) women's issues when stripped of language. This is what Orwell was writing about

Imreaaaaady · 14/05/2021 12:28

@Bluntness100

Is there not a section for trans issues to be discussed?
That's what all the feminism boards are for and why I no longer follow them so it is annoying when it spills over elsewhere.
NotMeekNotObedient · 14/05/2021 12:30

Feminism that centres men Hmm. Yer, no thanks.

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Rosiesmydog · 14/05/2021 12:53

I cannot understand how these people can get away with this sort of horrific, aggressive and dangerous platform! And what does society do? It enables them, it apologises to them, it panders to them...all in the name of inclusiveness.. imho this sort of horror is more dark net material surely?

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TheGumption · 14/05/2021 12:54

I'm so bored of these people. Can we not just stop giving them attention?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 14/05/2021 13:01

That's what all the feminism boards are for and why I no longer follow them so it is annoying when it spills over elsewhere

No it isnt

Its discussed on fwr as its a womens rights board but there isnt a specific board for trans discussion

CanofCant · 14/05/2021 13:03

I'm never shocked at male violence against women.

Cocolapew · 14/05/2021 13:07

If I click on a thread and it doesn't interest me I usually just click back again.
Not whinge that it should be on another board because I disagree with it

KFleming · 14/05/2021 13:12

One of those says “If your feminist activism doesn’t centre trans women right now, no matter the other intersections, you’re failing”

Sooo, a feminist fighting for, I don’t know, safe and legal abortion is failing. Regardless of her actual views on trans women, she is automatically “failing” because her specific feminist activism doesn’t centre trans women. Despite the fact trans women will never require an abortion and therefore have no need to be “centred”.

Are there times that individuals/activism should prioritise trans people/rights, of course. Is it an automatic across the board blanket failure if they don’t all the time - of course it fucking isn’t and that’s a ridiculous position to hold.

And I would hazard a guess that it is not the view of most trans women.

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IsThePopeCatholic · 14/05/2021 13:29

There are some seriously deranged trans people out there.

WarmSausageTea · 14/05/2021 13:34

If I click on a thread and it doesn't interest me I usually just click back again.
Not whinge that it should be on another board because I disagree with it

Well said. We don’t need self-appointed topic police.