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AIBU?

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To think she should have gone to jail?

51 replies

BogglesGoggles · 04/09/2019 17:15

Woman posed as a baby’s mother and got him circumcised. She was convicted but given a suspended sentence. AIBU? To think she should have been put in prison?

Link: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7426595/Pharmacist-spared-jail-posing-mother-11-month-old-boy-circumcised.html

OP posts:
SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 04/09/2019 17:19

What's the point in putting her in jail?

has she got previous convictions?

WilheldivaHater · 04/09/2019 17:52

It does seem like a light sentence to me. However my personal feelings regarding circumcision may be affecting my opinion on it.

I'm assuming she's a relative of the child although it doesn't say in the article. I can't imagine how terrible the parents are feeling, they thought they'd left their children in safe hands.

73Sunglasslover · 04/09/2019 17:56

Surely it's assault? Doing something to someone's body with no real consent?

T0getherindreams · 04/09/2019 17:56

sirjames

Would you have said the same thing if she had arranged the genital mutilation of a girl?

No?

Didn't think so.

iklboo · 04/09/2019 17:59

Hopefully the GPhC will take action.

WilheldivaHater · 04/09/2019 18:04

@T0getherindreams my thoughts exactly.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 04/09/2019 18:08

She is 70! How the hell did the person doing it not notice that she wasn’t mum?!?!?

Presumably she is granny and they are not saying that to protect the boy’s identity. Puts my MiL issues into perspective.....

Poor lad - yes - she should be in prison. Losing your career at 70 is not the same as losing it at 40.

SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 04/09/2019 19:20

@TOgetherindreams

You're right.

I didn't think this through and I have changed my mind.

samG76 · 06/09/2019 08:53

There’s obviously a lot that’s been omitted here. Mohelim don’t just do it “willy-nilly”, and they are strict about consent forms, but it’s not always easy to assess someone’s age, and maybe she had some sort of face or head covering. She did have someone masquerading as the dad, also. I wonder what happened to him?

iklboo · 06/09/2019 17:07

Mohelim don’t just do it “willy-nilly”,

No pun intended, I hope.

HugsAreMyDrugs · 06/09/2019 17:13

It didn't take long for the (utterly ridiculous) comparisons to FGM to start.

HugsAreMyDrugs · 06/09/2019 17:14

Female genital mutilation is illegal. Circumcision isn't.

But yes she should have gone to jail. She had no right to do what she did.

Ponoka7 · 06/09/2019 17:23

Especially given that he was 11 months old. There's no way that he wasn't very distressed, unless she drugged him.

AlexaAmbidextra · 06/09/2019 17:37

What's the point in putting her in jail?

Because it would be unpleasant for her and maybe teach her a lesson?

BigChocFrenzy · 06/09/2019 17:37

Interesting that she did this because of her "Nigerian Christian beliefs"
I wonder how many other faiths / cultures believe in circumcision

Normally we'd immediately think the issue would be Jewish beliefs

  • in this country at least.
iirc, circumcision is still fairly standard for boys in the US
LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/09/2019 17:39

I couldn’t see the link was was this the granny who possibly did this in cahoots with the dad?

Aprillygirl · 06/09/2019 17:40

She mutilated and traumatised a baby against his parents wishes in the name of fucking religion. Of course she should be in jail.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/09/2019 17:45

Don’t be silly the prisons are too full of poor souls who can’t pay their council tax to be putting those who commit assault in there, and it was assault!!!Angry

WorraLiberty · 06/09/2019 17:48

YANBU, that child can never get that part of his body back.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/09/2019 18:15

In males the genitals are the scrotum and the penis.

Maybe if we started to talk about "male genital mutilation" instead of the cosy euphemism "circumcision", people might think a bit less casually about it?

gowgow · 06/09/2019 18:17

Does she believe in "an eye for an eye" ?

I know what I'd like to happen to her - without an anaesthetic.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 06/09/2019 18:17

Yes she should have gone to prison. I don’t care how old she is

P1nkHeartLovesCake · 06/09/2019 18:21

There are some fucked up people about.

Something tells me if she’s of had a cock they would of sent her to prison, but she has a vagina so it’s ok

chickenyhead · 06/09/2019 18:25

Just because circumcision is legal doesn't mean that it should be.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/09/2019 18:29

Hair cutting is legal. It’s still assault to cut someone’s hair without their permission!