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He’s the match; we’re the ammo. Only we can stop ourselves - Trump thread 86

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TheClaws · 30/10/2018 03:24

This is one of the most apt political cartoon I’ve seen.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3393501-Couldnt-think-of-a-pithy-quote-so-have-this-instead-Trump-85

He’s the match; we’re the ammo. Only we can stop ourselves - Trump thread 86
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cozietoesie · 06/11/2018 18:31

Ho Hum. A CNN piece.

Gold is back

AcrossthePond55 · 06/11/2018 18:43

We voted by mail. I'm in a 'rabid red' congressional district in a True Blue state. We've got a very good candidate and are keeping fingers crossed for her.

I remember taking my sons in to vote with me when they were little. They're both voters now and still remember it.

Gumpendorf · 06/11/2018 18:49

I didn't see the Colbert clip cozie but Nicolle Wallace was saying that Cruz's acceptance of Trump insulting his wife did not go down well with a certain type of male voter in Texas.

We can only hope... Wink

Gumpendorf · 06/11/2018 18:52

Fox were not happy about Hannity and co being at the rally last night.

When the wind finally changes, Fox's allegiance to Trump will bite them hard.

He’s the match; we’re the ammo. Only we can stop ourselves - Trump thread 86
Gumpendorf · 06/11/2018 18:55

Voter suppression incident xxxx

Ready to wait? Hundreds of voters stand in line for hours this morning at this SW Atlanta polling place. Only three voting machines! What’s going on here? Live report at noon. twitter.com/tomreganWSB/status/1059838200699674624/video/1

twitter.com/tomreganWSB/status/1059838200699674624

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/11/2018 19:09

There are lots of tweets about polling stations running out of ballot papers or only having one working machine.

Also in other news, fertiliser king has been arrested!

Oliver Bullough
@OliverBullough
Dmitry Rybolovlev, the Russian oligarch who bought a Florida mansion from Trump for $95 million, and a New York condo for $88 million, has been arrested in Monaco on corruption charges.

cozietoesie · 06/11/2018 19:12

....arrested in Monaco??.........(My bolding.)

Lweji · 06/11/2018 19:20

I have a feeling (big hope) that both Houses will change sides.

I'm officially willing it to happen. So, it will. Wink

Gumpendorf · 06/11/2018 19:25

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/equipment-malfunctions-and-voting-machine-shortages-bring-long-lines-in-georgia/

More on the competence of Brian Kemp to run an election in non white, non Republican areas. Apparently white Republican areas have functioned well. Must be a coincidence Sad

Gumpendorf · 06/11/2018 19:28

Lweji. 🤞🤞
I'm so traumatised by 2016 (Trump and Brexit) that I no longer dare hope for good news. I'm on tenterhooks and already half way through a bottle of RiojaConfusedGrin

GrinitchSpinach · 06/11/2018 19:33

Thank you for the Cake, Perking! I'm wondering when it's time to start on Wine!

Across, I think we're on opposite coasts. May the blue wave rise from sea to shining sea!

Lweji I guess I'm an incorrigible optimist, because I can't help but hope for the Senate, too, even though it looks very unlikely. Thank you for the force of your will on our side! Grin

Gumpendorf and Pain all the voter suppression stuff is sooo depressing. On the other hand, it's a clue that these guys know that in a fair fight, they lose. Most Americans do not share their values. And the anti-suppression efforts are very, very ramped up this cycle. Let's hope it's enough...

GrinitchSpinach · 06/11/2018 19:37

BTW, just so everyone can see for themselves what a parody of a garbage American Georgia Secretary of State/Republican nominee for governor/vote-suppressor-in-chief Brian Kemp is, here is one of his actual ads:

PerkingFaintly · 06/11/2018 19:38

Oooh, IIRC Rybolovlev featured heavily in that piece about weird Trump/Russian real estate deals by Rachel Maddow waaaaay back in the early days of this administration. It also featured Wilbur Ross and some interesting banks. Um, Cyprus, a bank there, maybe or also Deutsche Bank? And Rosneft the Russian petroleum company?

Would have to go back to thread No 1 to check details.

cozietoesie · 06/11/2018 19:45

Under investigation since 2017 IIRC?

CaveMum · 06/11/2018 19:51

How on Earth can the voter suppression stuff happen?! Why is no one challenging it? Why is it not federal law that all voting machines have to be serviced and certified fit for use before an election takes place. It’s not like they never know election dates (like us!)

Gumpendorf · 06/11/2018 19:55

Seth Abramson is on it, Perking. This is the start of the thread.

twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1059877489105948672

BREAKING: This could be far bigger than we think

Bloomberg has reported Mueller is probing the below Trump-Russia deal, the implication being it might've been money laundering

Trump is believed to have met Rybolovlev/an agent of his twice in the 10 days before the 2016 election https://twitter.com/OliverBullough/status/1059871054859042816

2/ The two men's planes met on airstrips twice in the 10 days before the 2016 election and Rybolovlev's team refused to say if he was on the plane. The deal the men did years ago has all the signs of money laundering. The pre-election meetings would then imply collusion for cash.

twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1059878222542848002

PerkingFaintly · 06/11/2018 20:01

There we go, thank you MSNBC. It was indeed Wilbur Ross, Rybolovlev and Bank of Cyprus, as well as Deutsche Bank, that she mentioned. And "the Russian state oil company", so that's Rosneft.

Hope Hicks’ House Intel testimony postponed Transcript 1/18/18 The Rachel Maddow Show
www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2018-01-18

The Rachel Maddow Show, Transcript 2/27/2017
www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2017-02-27

The Rachel Maddow Show, transcript 3/3/2017
www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2017-03-03

From the third transcript:
Weve covered that and the fact that the fertilizer guy who is so apparently radically overpaid Donald Trump for that property, hes also a major shareholder to a bank in Cyprus that has ties to Vladimir Putin. The vice chairman of that bank is our new Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, long time friend of Donald Trump. So if you saw Monday night`s show, that much we have covered.

Here`s a new thing, though – as far as anybody can tell, the same Russian oligarch, the fertilizer guy, he also owns this nearly $100 million airport. Look at that, private owned airplane. Look how big it is. He owns it through a holding company in the British Virgin Islands and we know from flight records that on November 3rd – so five days before the presidential election – his plane, the fertilizer king, his plane showed up in little Concord, North Carolina, that tiny one-strip airport on the same day Donald Trump was in Concord, North Carolina, holding a rally.

The fertilizer king`s plane arrived in Concord, North Carolina, from New York at around 9:30 in the morning, stayed in Concord for a few hours, then took off for the roughly 25-minute voyage from Concord, North Carolina, to Charlotte, North Carolina, which is where we get this picture.

The fertilizer kings plane you see there on the left, on the right that is Donald Trumps plane. They were both spotted at Charlotte`s airport that same day at the same time, November 3rd, five days before the election, which is interesting, right?

PerkingFaintly · 06/11/2018 20:02

Aha, scooped by Abramson and everyone on this thread!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/11/2018 20:19

I hope she’s right but my timeline is full of incidents that’s suggest otherwise.

The Surprising Good News About Voting Security

With today’s midterms, America’s election infrastructure has never been more carefully monitored by government officials. But will that be enough?

www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/575008/

Grrrrrrt · 06/11/2018 20:23

Havent RTFT but does the title of this particular thread, and the reference to the 'apt political cartoon' in the OP grate on anyone else? I'm pretty sure that cartoon is meant to depict a trump rally?

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2018 20:24

Sarah Kendizor @Sarahkenzior
My husband is at our St Louis polling site and he says lines are longer than he's ever seen. They're so long, he's in a corridor of the polling site he did not know existed. They rerouted the line to make room 😮

This is good. Get out and vote, Missouri! Polls open til 7:00 pm!

I voted! Line was not as long as when my husband went earlier. But it was long for a midterm election -- comparable to 2016.

The biggest change I noticed was the number of people who looked 40 or younger. The voter base in my area is elderly black voters. Youth turnout is new.

PerkingFaintly · 06/11/2018 20:30

Grrrrrrt, I think it does represent a Trump rally.

I understood the "we" in the title to be the cartoon's author referring to all US citizens, calling on citizens to stop playing the part of the ammo.

But I double-take when I see it, too.