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To ask what this actually means?!

31 replies

Hamandcheesebaguette · 26/05/2018 12:01

Apart from the fact that it's obviously disgustingly racist (and my uncle has just been swiftly deleted off Facebook for sharing it)... I don't get the point that they're trying to make?!

To ask what this actually means?!
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VogueVVague · 26/05/2018 12:06

So why would you delete your uncle over a cartoon you dont understand?

I dont get it.

Ted27 · 26/05/2018 12:07

I don't see it as racist.

I see it as making the point that if you are a white western woman you have legal access to services that can help you with an unwanted pregnancy.

Women from other cultures don't necessarily have the same options and may end up having larger families which they don't necessarily want or can afford.

Hamandcheesebaguette · 26/05/2018 12:08

Because it's plainly obvious it is a racist cartoon I'm just not sure what the illustrators point was EXACTLY. Plus it's not the first time he's shared these things and I'm in a bad mood and thought oh fuck off...

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EmpressOfSpartacus · 26/05/2018 12:09

I think Ted's right.

It's not racist, it's making the point that not all women have the right to control their own reproduction.

Emma198 · 26/05/2018 12:09

If I saw it I'd assume it was along the lines of "coming over here, taking advantage of our free healthcare, having kids they can't afford and then living off our government" and would likely delete them. Also the Vote No comment would add to that.

VogueVVague · 26/05/2018 12:09

@Ted27
It is racist if you read the text at the bottom. Its saying that while white women are having abortions, WOC are popping kids out, aka Ireland wont be a "white country" anymore (despite the fact that Ireland is pretty heavily lacking in much ethnic diversity but whatever).

But still think its funny op deleted uncle without understanding the cartoon

MagentaRocks · 26/05/2018 12:11

I don’t think it’s racist. I think it is saying as a pp said that if you are a white western woman you have more choices than if you are not.

PatriciaHolm · 26/05/2018 12:11

I would read it as claiming that if abortions are legal, the white women will have them but others won't, thus leading to the country becoming increasingly less white.

It's horribly racist and sexist - it basically says we need to force white women to have babies in order to avoid being overrun by other "demographics" as it refers to them.

PinkHeart5914 · 26/05/2018 12:12

No all women in all countries can access an abortion well not safely anyway.

SoyDora · 26/05/2018 12:12

Looking at the picture alongside the text, my interpretation of it is that white people will have abortions and WOC will continue having children, meaning that Ireland will no longer be a ‘white’ country if abortions are allowed? I could be wrong though.

Windmyonlyfriend · 26/05/2018 12:13

It’s definitely racist. It’s a ‘Vote No’ cartoon (read the text at the bottom), so it implies if abortion is legalised in Ireland, all the white babies will be aborted and the country will be overrun by ‘those bloody immigrants/blacks/muslims’.

Your uncle is a racist, misogynist, dick.

HateSummer · 26/05/2018 12:13

The caption is “demographics are destiny”. Ofcourse this is racist. It’s saying whilst white women are having abortions, the women of colour and Muslims are having babies, so eventually there’ll be more of them than white. I guess it’s for what’s happening in Ireland about abortions atm.

Ted27 · 26/05/2018 12:13

Ahh that is different then - I couldnt see any text. Source of the material is everything !

SoyDora · 26/05/2018 12:13

Basically what PatriciaHolm said

0hCrepe · 26/05/2018 12:13

It’s racist and misogynistic because it’s saying watch out we’re going to be taken over by black people because they have so many babies while white women have abortions.

TheBogWitchIsBack · 26/05/2018 12:14

I didn't really understand it until I saw the caption. Horrible. I'd have deleted anyone who posted this.

MaireadMacSweeney · 26/05/2018 12:14

It's captioned "Vote no. Demographics are destiny"

The person who posted it doesn't want more black babies than white in their country.

MiggeldyHiggins · 26/05/2018 12:15

Of course its fucking racist. Its saying legal abortion will mean that only immigrants will be having any babies and before you know it there will be no white people left.
In Ireland, one of the whitest countries on the planet. Hmm

Fair play to you for deleting the fuckwit, OP.

0hCrepe · 26/05/2018 12:16

X post with several others

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 26/05/2018 12:16

It’s absolutely racist for the reason Vogue says. The context of the abortion ref in Ireland makes clear it’s not a positive comment on women’s healthcare in most of the West.

Amanduh · 26/05/2018 12:17

It is absolutely 100% racist. Saying that other ethnicities are all having children and ‘taking over’ and there are no white kids because they’re all aborted. Demographics are destiny. Gross

MiggeldyHiggins · 26/05/2018 12:17

I think it is saying as a pp said that if you are a white western woman you have more choices than if you are not

How can you say that when the entire point is the restriction of white western womens choices?

SoyDora · 26/05/2018 12:18

I think it is saying as a pp said that if you are a white western woman you have more choices than if you are not

That makes no sense in the context of it being a ‘vote no’ poster.

JellySlice · 26/05/2018 12:18

Vile.

Jewish doctor getting rid of white babies (whose mothers don't really care and are predominately slim), while black and Muslim mothers (who are mostly fat) and powhite trash mothers are podding them out.

Must protect the nation!

Hmm
Sturmundcalm · 26/05/2018 12:34

they clearly think it is important for Ireland to remain predominantly white and think they can persuade others to vote no by suggesting the legalisation of abortion would mean no white babies would be born...

can understand why you deleted him! i'm lucky enough that everyone in my FB feed has been campaigning the other way - and they've won. it's a good day.

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