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Why can’t America ban automatic weapons?

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MaryPoppinsPenguins · 14/02/2018 22:42

I don’t get it. I honestly don’t. After Sandy Hook that should have been enough... statistics speak for themselves.

Why? What don’t I get?

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AdoraBell · 14/02/2018 22:44

They could. They just don’t want to.

Doobigetta · 14/02/2018 22:46

It seems that for a significant proportion of Americans, there is no problem caused by guns that can't be fixed by having more guns.

Chilver · 14/02/2018 22:47

The NRA is a very powerful body with ties to many politicians...

SmallBee · 14/02/2018 22:47

Short version is that the people that give a shit have no power and the rest of them want to keep them. Despite the fact that any survivors of shootings run the risk of being bankrupted by their own medical bills.

Namechangetempissue · 14/02/2018 22:47

Purely because the majority don't want to. They enjoy their right to bear arms -my American family all have guns. I couldn't live like that personally.

AdoraBell · 14/02/2018 22:51

SmallBee put it better than I did.

Notwellbitch · 14/02/2018 22:51

Fully automatic weapons are already "illegal" since the 80s. But only the purchase of them and the making of new ones. All the ones already owned which was around half a million apparently are still around.

There are so many guns in the US that banning them all wouldn't change anything really

Alloftheboys · 14/02/2018 22:54

Shutting the stable doors after the house has bolted.
I can't see a ban happening anytime soon with the 🐱 grabbing POTUS

Luckymummy22 · 14/02/2018 22:56

A child’s life or any life in is not greater than the right to bear arms.

And to think I used to look over the pond enviously .......................

NotAnotherEmma · 14/02/2018 22:58

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MaryPoppinsPenguins · 14/02/2018 23:00

It’s so incredibly clear than banning guns will stop this. Historically, it will work. Surely there has to come a point the accept that.

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NotAnotherEmma · 14/02/2018 23:10

If banning guns stopped murder then why do so many people get murdered in the UK?

user764329056 · 14/02/2018 23:15

Doobi, spot on, I don’t see there ever being a resolution to this, US will protect its right to bear arms for eternity, no president will ever touch it

madeyemoodysmum · 14/02/2018 23:15

Notanotheremma
I feel your post is in very bad taste
Have you seen the news?

ReggaetonLente · 14/02/2018 23:16

When was the last mass shooting in the UK, Emma?

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MaryPoppinsPenguins · 14/02/2018 23:16

Notanotheremma - really? Hmm

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 14/02/2018 23:20

The only mass shooing the UK has had in a school was Dunblane - swiftly followed by a change in the law to ensure it never happened again.

Yet in the USA, no action is taken despite shooting after shooting. Tonights news is, sadly, not unusual in the US. If the law didn't change after Sandy Hook it's not going to change now.

mammmamia · 14/02/2018 23:22

Emma
Are you serious?

mammmamia · 14/02/2018 23:23

That was to Notaotheremma.

Not Emma Grundy!

AgnesSkinner · 14/02/2018 23:27

I think it was Dunblane in 1996. That was a huge turning point.

In the year ending March 2016 there were 26 homicides from firearms in the UK (5% of total homicides).

US gun laws are insane.

Allthewaves · 14/02/2018 23:28

NRA

Bumshkawahwah · 14/02/2018 23:29

I live in the south and people are wedded to their guns. It scares me. I worry about my kids going to a new friends house for a play date and guns not being properly locked or dismantled. I worrying that someone will bring a gun to school. Every day there is news of a shooting on TV...on the local news which just covers the western part of my state and the state below. Just before Christmas there was an alert out for two armed and dangerous robbers in my small rural area.

We're only posted here for a few years, but I will not be looking for that to be extended. It's a shame because where we live is lovely.

EveningShadows · 14/02/2018 23:31

NotAnotherEmma, wow your ignorance is astounding. Look up the stats for gun deaths in Europe compared to the US.

What a cruelly timed and vile post.

Our gun laws save lives. Fact. Your gun laws don’t. Fact. When Americans finally work that out your kids will be safer in school. Fact.

NotAnotherEmma · 14/02/2018 23:34

I feel this whole thread is in bad taste. Every time there is a shooting tragedy in my home country everyone and their mother wants to use it as an excuse to push their anti gun agenda.

I can't think of many things in worse taste then using people's deaths to push personal political opinions and laws. Family's lost people and others can't wait to line up and use that for political reasons.

MotherforkingShirtballs · 14/02/2018 23:36

US gun deaths in 2017, excluding suicides : 15,549
UK gun deaths in 2017, excluding suicides : 26

Speaks for itself really.