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Aibu re casual racism

36 replies

Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 13:01

Name changed for this.....

So the other day a friend posted on fb that his daughter was 100% Irish. Dad is English. Mother is Irish. Daughter was born in England. They live in England. His reasons for this is that the majority of English people are dick heads and are hated around the world. Irish are lovelier people and are liked all over the world. He wants her to be liked. I called him out on it and he said he wasn't racist as his wife is Irish?

This behavior concerns me for many reasons but I was after other people's thoughts.

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Mominatrix · 06/02/2018 13:11

Does he consider himself a "dick head". How bizarre.

Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 13:42

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Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 14:05

No of course not! It's everyone else!

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user1497863568 · 06/02/2018 20:27

Weirdo. The English haven't liked us for a long time Grin

FoxesSitOnBoxes · 06/02/2018 20:29

English isn’t a race

GetShitDone · 06/02/2018 20:30

So you are saying he is being racist against himself?

I'm not really sure that's a thing...

midnightmisssuki · 06/02/2018 20:32

i think your friend doesn't know the definition of 'race'....

OutyMcOutface · 06/02/2018 20:33

But if we are going to make sweeping generalisations the Irish have been almost universally despised and down trodden in a way that the English haven't. I certainly have never heard anyone call the Irish 'lovely' Hmm. I mean racism against the Irish has been around for centuries. As for the English, the only ones who don't like them are those who feel wronged by them so the Irish, the Scottish, some former colonies. I really don't think that hate of Englishmen is much of a thing though, it certainly doesn't compare to the Irish are untrustworthy drunks sterotype. Your friend just sounds a bit ignorant really.

Reddlion · 06/02/2018 20:38

as someone else said English isn't a race. I'm assuming both parents are white.
he's a self hater not racist

NotSoSprightly · 06/02/2018 20:48

Sounds like a very bizarre individual...

Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 20:54

I think that's the issue. Very ignorant and his arguements are incoherent and contradictory. He's not self hating. He lives himself. Everyone else is a dick head.

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Ivebeenaroundtheblock · 06/02/2018 20:59

OP, you know that neither English, Irish, Scottish, or Welsh is a “race” it’s a nationality.
I like (men in) kilts and plaid I’ll call myself Scottish.

Dancingfairy · 06/02/2018 21:02

Was also thinking that English isn't a race.

Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 21:17

So he's just a dick head then? I'm aware that English isn't a race but he's discriminating against English people and saying the Irish are superior..

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Dancingfairy · 06/02/2018 21:21

But it's not racism.

Beansonapost · 06/02/2018 21:22

Not racism.

The word idiot springs to mind.

Ghanagirl · 06/02/2018 21:27

Standinguptononsense
Really?
I’m sorry try being black, he’s stupid maybe but not racist...

MysweetAudrina · 06/02/2018 21:32

I'm irish and i can't say I have ever faced " the drunk untrustworthy stereotype" Anytime I am abroad I always get a very warm reception when people realise I am irish. He must just like the Irish Psyche and want that for his daughter. Wouldn't find It too worrying.

Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 21:34

Definitely stupid! He'd referred to races that's why.. Either way his opinion is ridiculous

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c75kp0r · 06/02/2018 21:35

Whether or not it is racism, it is objectionable. Also ironic that one of his motivations is being "liked" - yet he is behaving in a not very likeable way... Sheesh even Martin McGuiness managed a civil word with the Queen

Standinguptononsense · 06/02/2018 21:39

That's the bit I don't understand the need to be liked because of nationality. He wants to raise his daughter as Irish in an. English school where they are all dick heads apparently..... Inflicting these weird views on her that you need to be a certain nationality to be liked.

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LemonysSnicket · 06/02/2018 21:41

Xenophobic *

babyccinoo · 06/02/2018 21:42

This thread is insulting to people who suffer real racism, OP.

I don't think you even know what it is.

Casmama · 06/02/2018 21:44

What he says on Facebook doesn’t make it true. I could declare myself 100% banana if I was a bit of an idiot.
Outy I think you may be underestimating dislike of English people.

c75kp0r · 06/02/2018 21:46

Poor kids hearing that nonsense - how are they supposed to make friends and fit in at school if everyone there is 'not nice'?

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