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We can't answer this thread without revealing classified information. Trumpery trumped.

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PerkingFaintly · 09/05/2017 08:46

New thread, and here's the link to yesterday's hearing again.

Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interference
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/08/full-transcript-sally-yates-and-james-clapper-testify-on-russian-election-interference/?utm_term=.8b4eaf12c960

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GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 16:48

Scott Dworkin‏Verified account @funder 1m1 minute ago
#BREAKING: Russian Mobster Felix Sater Advised The Trump Campaign

By @GrantStern—Uncovered by @Funder #trumprussia
thesternfacts.com/russian-mobster-felix-sater-advised-the-trump-campaign-d69f3a58d617

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 16:48

JΞSŦΞR ✪ ΔCŦUΔL³³º¹‏ @th3j35t3r 2m2 minutes ago
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#BREAKING TRUMP on Sally Yates warning abt Flynn: "We didn't even know Sally Yates"

That's right. He didn't know who his own acting AG was

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 16:49

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 3m3 minutes ago
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GOP senator threatens to block Trump's CIA nominee hill.cm/FHFS8dh

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 16:50

Good info to read here.

Matthew Miller‏Verified account @matthewamiller 4m4 minutes ago
Statement from @EricHolder on Jeff Sessions' step backwards on criminal justice. pic.twitter.com/hCDVHnxRdg

cozietoesie · 12/05/2017 16:53

He better be careful or he'll earn a nickname like Cryin' Chuck did. Wink

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 16:53

Kyle Griffin‏Verified account @kylegriffin1 2m2 minutes ago
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"This has galvanized the FBI in a way that probably hasn't happened in any time in recent history"

—Clint Watts to @MSNBC on Comey's firing

cozietoesie · 12/05/2017 16:55

As I said. 'You don't alienate your Praetorian Guard'. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/05/2017 16:58

Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind
NEW YORKERS:
More on corruption in NY senate.
8 ran as Dems, but caucus w GOP - 3 got caught doing so illegally!
t.co/7FJoVIl6Rc?amp=1

Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind
In the last month alone, their alignment w GOP has blocked a bill to request Trump's tax returns, and stopped single payer in NY.

cozietoesie · 12/05/2017 17:00

Gosh. That was ill advised.

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:01

Re Sessions new changes...

Joy Reid‏Verified account @JoyAnnReid 3h3 hours ago
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Joy Reid Retweeted Phil Mattingly
All of you voters who chose Trump because you blamed Hillary Clinton for her husband's mass incarceration policies in the 90s? Good job.

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:02

The Last Word‏Verified account @TheLastWord 2m2 minutes ago
Constitutional expert @tribelaw says Trump's change in his Comey story shows he's "trying to cover up the cover-up." on.msnbc.com/2qyfz7J pic.twitter.com/xrjo6uWzCv

cozietoesie · 12/05/2017 17:08

Ah. Huckleberry was the one on point.

Lweji · 12/05/2017 17:08

Looking forward to the "T Files" series/documentary. A group of FBI operatives maintains a secret line of investigation regarding a mysterious personality, code name T, without the knowledge of their new boss, a T puppet.

AcrossthePond55 · 12/05/2017 17:12

He better be careful or he'll earn a nickname like Cryin' Chuck did.

Dirty Donald?

the president’s income-tax returns from the past 10 years show no “income of any type from Russian sources,”

Ah, but does it show income from sources who have Russian ties? This is another statement that is 'technically' true in a narrow sense, but a lie in the broader (real) sense.

"No, I didn't take a cookie" vs "I didn't take a cookie, but I told Johnny to take one and give it to me"

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:18

The cracks are starting to show.....

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 2m2 minutes ago
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Rand Paul attacks Jeff Sessions over reversing Obama policy on mandatory minimum sentences hill.cm/mrNUBcX

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:19

USA TODAY‏Verified account @USATODAY 3m3 minutes ago
An interim FBI director could be named as soon as Friday. usat.ly/2r1L3TG

BiglyBadgers · 12/05/2017 17:20

I know, his stupidity is astounding. He's a complete psychopath but a fair number of politicians has some sociopathic traits. What really shocks me is how someone so utterly dim who can't string a sentence together can fool people into voting for him as President.

He didn't fool people. They fooled themselves. They could not believe anyone could be as dumb, fascist and self absorbed as Trump is. They all convinced themselves it was this amazing act he out on to get the rightwing vote. They convinced themselves that once he got in power he would reveal his true reasonable self, because he must be reasonable as nobody that crazy could really ever become president. The media, the GOP, everyone who voted for him and plenty who didn't wrote an internal monologue for Trump that reflected their own desires and lack of belief that he could possibly just be exactly as he seemed all along.

It is only now that we have Colbert openly saying that Trump is in fact exactly what he is. In a way he is the most honest politician in history in that he never put on an act, it was everyone else that assumed it was an act. If everyone had taken him at face value they would not have voted for him.

I see the same thing happening with May. There is lots of talk about how she is just acting all crazy right-wing to keep the kippers happy. That once she has a majority she will suddenly transform into a liberal, reasonable person and pursue a soft brexit with open and honest negotiations. We must learn from Trump. We must take her exactly as she presents herself to be and not place any imagined veneer of reasonableness to her or we will end up finding what we got was exactly what we voted for.

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:20

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 1m1 minute ago
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Trump's Comey firing sets off fresh round of leaks hill.cm/Buokhbf

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:22

Eoin‏ @LabourEoin 2m2 minutes ago
Always the Fire Exit, never the door. Theresa May is absolutely terrified of meeting normal everyday people. pic.twitter.com/EJvnZDZfVR

She got caught by a crowd today and was booed endlessly.

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:22

Bradd Jaffy‏Verified account @BraddJaffy 3m3 minutes ago
Schiff to Trump: Hand over the Comey “tapes” to Congress or admit it's baloney pic.twitter.com/22pE6kzu40

cozietoesie · 12/05/2017 17:27

I wonder how 45 might deal with McCabe? (Though to be not long for the FBI because of general unsoundness.)

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:28

Mark Knoller‏Verified account @markknoller 4s5 seconds ago
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Next up: @PressSec back at the lectern today at 1pm for press briefing. Was serving US Navy Reserve duty last couple days at the Pentagon.

cozietoesie · 12/05/2017 17:31

I'm glad about Spicey actually. I like being given my lies from a known source Grin

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:32

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP 1m1 minute ago
Melissa McCarthy goes into NYC streets in a motorized podium to lampoon White House press secretary Sean Spicer. apne.ws/2pGGomc

GingerIvy · 12/05/2017 17:34

Yashar‏Verified account @yashar 3m3 minutes ago
Spicer returns to the podium today but could it be his last time? Melissa McCarthy returns to SNL this weekend. www.politico.com/story/2017/05/12/spicers-make-or-break-briefing-238315

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