Please or to access all these features

Add post

Watch this thread

Save thread

Start a new thread

Flip thread

Hide thread

My feed

Active Unanswered threads

Getting started FAQ's

Unanswered threads Acronyms Talk guidelines

Hide shortcut buttons

Talk

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Flip

1 2 3

Original poster

To report a colleague...

73 replies

SpanglyBirds · 21/05/2016 20:37

....for benefit fraud, not just because its wrong, but also because I personally dislike her?

I have concrete evidence that fraud is being committed (has been for around 2 years+) but it just seems sort of childish to do it, when I know my reasons are not solely altruistic.

This colleague is such a nasty, lazy, entitled arsehole that I want to go ahead and report and write it off as karma biting her in the butt. On the other hand I'm not sure I'd be so quick to shop any of my other lovely colleagues.

I don't know... AIBU?

OP posts:

Vixxfacee · 21/05/2016 20:38

You sound spiteful.

ABCAlwaysBeCunting · 21/05/2016 20:39

Creampastry · 21/05/2016 20:41

You do sound spiteful but if she's committing fraud then her fault, she can pay the consequences.

coco1810 · 21/05/2016 20:45

Spite doesn't come into it, why should we pay for someone to commit fraud.. Please report!

NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/05/2016 20:47

You do sound quite spiteful but that does not make her committing fraud go away.

Out of interest what fraud do you have concrete evidence she is commiting?

Original poster

SpanglyBirds · 21/05/2016 20:51

Yes, spiteful is exactly how I feel considering it, which is why I asked.

But then again, she is committing fraud. And then there's the numerous times the rest of us have taken the shit she deals out and covered for her utter laziness and incompetence.

OP posts:

EquinoxBloom · 21/05/2016 20:54

Go for it

x2boys · 21/05/2016 20:54

If she's commiting fraud it doesn't really matter wether the op is being spiteful or not it's a crime ffs

Champagneformyrealfriends · 21/05/2016 20:57

Yanbu. I would imagine part of what makes you dislike her is that she's prepared to commit benefit fraud. Spiteful or not she deserves all she gets.

Original poster

SpanglyBirds · 21/05/2016 21:13

If it makes any difference the evidence shows that she has been using company systems to produce fictitious invoices and register entries to claim childcare payments from tax credits.

OP posts:

Ilovewillow · 21/05/2016 21:15

I am not sure that your personal feelings should cloud your decision making I.e. Thinking it might be spiteful! At the end of day whatever your feeling she is committing fraud and I wouldn't hesitate in reporting her!

Beepbopboop · 21/05/2016 21:27

Yanbu. Do it!

Zaurak · 21/05/2016 21:34

it makes any difference the evidence shows that she has been using company systems to produce fictitious invoices and register entries to claim childcare payments from tax credits.

Be careful. If you know this, and it can be shown you knew this and didn't report, you could be in deep shit at work yourself.
Report to the relevant people at work of you could find yourself being labelled as complicit

NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/05/2016 21:48

If it makes any difference the evidence shows that she has been using company systems to produce fictitious invoices and register entries to claim childcare payments from tax credits

Obviously I would report, but this makes little to no sense unless you know she uses no childcare or you mean she is changing invoices to show differing amounts.

A tax credits claim only requires you to provide evidence of that nature during a compliance check not at any other time,and they don't tend to give a hoot about invoices they only care about actual payments.

So her childcare provider would have to confirm the actual payments not the invoiced ones.

The only way this makes any sense is if you work in/for a childcare provider
A compliance check for childcare will request evidence of actual payments so bank statements showing payments,receipts letter from provider confirming payments are x amount and no arrears exist.

If a claiment is unable to provide these then they can approach the childcarer directly and request the same information from them.

Original poster

SpanglyBirds · 21/05/2016 22:29

OK, I was trying to be deliberately vague to avoid outage, but that's failed. Yes we work for the admin dept of a company that runs sports and holiday clubs for children. Said colleague is the person who would deal with enquiries from tax credits. Previously they were dealt with by anyone on the team but now that (and most of the other 'easy' jobs) are dealt with by her alone. I'd assumed this was purely down to the general laziness issues but it has now dawned on me that its for other reasons too.

There are invoices apparently from our company for her children attending numerous sessions and letters to tax credits (also one to the council) confirming amounts paid by colleague. Registers for those dates have been altered to include her children's names, which were not originally there. The children definitely haven't attended those sessions as it is well known that she uses company transport to collect them from school and drop them home everyday because 'its on the way'.

OP posts:

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 21/05/2016 22:35

Yabu. Simply because you don't like her.
That's is the epitome of spite.
Live and let live. Keep your beak out. Ruining her life is not going to make your life any better. What goes around always comes around and all that.

Worry about yourself and stop using other people's lives for entertainment.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 21/05/2016 22:36

Karma will also be biting you in the butt as well.

HerRoyalNotness · 21/05/2016 22:39

Karma doesn't exist.

She will keep going if you don't speak up, but you should be talking to your manager about this, regarding by falsifying company records for her gain. Do not hide this.

ilovesooty · 21/05/2016 22:40

I don't think mymy primary concern would be whether to report her for benefit fraud. If you are certain of your facts you should be checking your company's whistle blowing policy before you find yourself iin trouble.

Creampastry · 21/05/2016 22:42

You need to report her to management!!!

PaulAnkaTheDog · 21/05/2016 22:45

Reporting someone for fraud is fair enough. Only doing it because you dislike them makes me question your morals as well as those of the person your reporting. Nice post, you made yourself sound like a real treasure!

Foofoobum · 21/05/2016 22:48

I don't believe reporting her for tax credit (not a benefit) fraud would be karma. Karma is something that just happens it's not made by anyone else.
If you are sure she's fiddling in work processes for her own gain talk to someone at work about inconsistencies and let them work it out.

So many people are reported to inspectors out of spite and so few are ever prosecuted or proven. All it does is create stress and upset and her kids would be the ones to suffer in the long run. And if it ever got out that it was you (eg after a few wines at the Xmas night out) even if you were doing the right thing in your mind, people wouldn't trust you and would always be wary of you.

PotatoesPastaAndBread · 21/05/2016 22:53

Forget benefit fraud, it's gross misconduct. Report her to management / HR / internal audit for that. And do it before they find out you knew but didn't report.

Gide · 21/05/2016 22:54

Report, she's committing fraud.

Lucylaceingale · 21/05/2016 22:54

I would just leave it to be honest, you might seriously ruin her life, I wouldn't be able to have that on my concious. If she is committing fraud she'll be caught out eventually.

Flip

1 2 3