To ask what's the beef with benefits?

[mytartanscarf]

Do people think they are too little? That they should be more?

There's always a lot of upset on here about them - about how wrong the government are and how awful life is on benefits. I've never been on benefits so obviously can't judge. But what are the solutions?

I suppose I am asking what should the government do?

[Cantbelievethisishappening]

Oh FFS... really????

[PumpkinPie2013]

This won’t end well OP

[WorraLiberty]

Mmmm...beef.

[Jumblebee]

I read that as the benefits of beef, my first was "it's yummy!"

[Cantbelievethisishappening]

Worra

[26Point2Miles]

People had an opinion well before ch 4/5 started making programmes about them!!

[ineedtogetthisout]

I can't afford beef because I'm on benefits, its turkey twizzlers all the way in this house.

[OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse]

The upset around benefits is usually to do with people saying that others shouldn't have them / they should be less. On MN and elsewhere.

So I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that you did, about what the "beef" with benefits is.

[WorraLiberty]

How about roast goat?

[Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost]

The beef with benefits is that claimants are treated worse than criminals. And I say that as someone who has never had to claim benefits.
HTH

[DaisyFlowerChain]

They are far too high and the system is broken. It's no longer a welfare state for most claimants but a lifestyle choice.

If it returned to a true welfare system, there would be more money for more important things.

You don't need to see TV shows to realise what a mess the system has become.

[Dawndonnaagain]

Get your hands of my goat Worra!

[Dawndonnaagain]

Daisy
DFOD, there's a good girl.

[Cantbelievethisishappening]

They are far too high and the system is broken. It's no longer a welfare state for most claimants but a lifestyle choice.

Nothing like a sweeping generalisation to get the party started.

[KoalaDownUnder]

What the government should do? About what??

Could you be a bit more specific? I mean, surely everything a government spends public money on (benefits, healthcare, education) attracts some controversy. That's why there are multiple political parties. But what exactly asking about?

[WorraLiberty]

I can't Dawn, he's eaten the remote to my 50" plasma.

If you think I'm hauling my arse off the sofa to change channels manually, you must be mad.

How the hell am I supposed to watch Jeremy Kyle now?

[Cantbelievethisishappening]

Worra... can't you get one of your ten children to change it for you?

[WorraLiberty]

Oh that's handy.

Instead of explaining to the OP how the 'beef' normally comes from ill informed, ignorant fools who believe all the shit on TV...all we need to do is point her in the direction of DaisyFlowerChain's post.

Job done

[balia]

The upset is created by those in power who want to distract the attention of the majority away from the huge inequality and basic unfairness of life in our society. To take our minds off tax dodgers and companies who don't pay a living wage, to get us to focus our energies on the very weakest and most vulnerable in society because they have no means by which to defend themselves.

HTH

[WorraLiberty]

Cantbelievethisishappening, how am I supposed to get them off of their smart phones and ipads??

[RonaldMcDonald]

Er
Maybe we should give beef with benefits but what would we do for the pescatarians vegans vegetarians and all religions and other animal farmers in someway discriminated by its provision?

[Cantbelievethisishappening]

balia Yep.... nothing like a bit of divide and rule.

[26Point2Miles]

Well I think the government are doing something about benefits being a lifestyle choice. They are getting tougher to claim and remain. And they are lesser